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win or lose you pay your dues

we are all playing poker
are you scared

in tawfiq’s paper which i now cringe at having graded B+ in which he taught me that writing a blog is like praying, speaking to god, your audience your complement in rhetorical space

for clarity like that straight A

we feel divinity in the net, feel it in the unity of complement, the elegance of something whole made from the threads of rhetoric

epiei the moniker with which today we bought a low power fm transmitter perfect as they advertize for pirate radio bound for kingston where we are perfectly legit

88.9 fm radio bound for jamaica coming out of kingston
let’s see what you got
dred scott asking if he is a citizen
dred scott telling you he is

so sorry that i have not seen jeremy or y.s or juan carlos and all of is2k
a conference is a format
this was fred friendly framed by keynote to conversation
let us think of it as just that
a menu of attraction that could be replicated and improved upon and served by every university
charles ogletree tomorrow at Brown University on what we do with our understanding of our human genome
every school an issue with passion at its core played out in civil discouse as the framework for the form

university lies in the civility of the discourse coupled with a spirit of mischief probing for the deeper truth

suppose tawfiq that instead of coming from an environment of openness in which poker is played as a national game and democracy is our government’s core
you are of a fundamental society from the perspective of which open democracy each man each woman judging truth seems chaos

is2k7 – out from under chatham rules

me: colin, are you on
Colin: yes sir!
sitting next to dorothy z.
me: hey!!
nice
Colin: hi – how’re you doing?
me: pls say hi
ok
wish i was there
how is it going
Colin: us, too.
well – tree’s been great, your message was perfect, mary did a great wrap on yesterday and jp is raising a lot of imp questions.
audience is pretty quiet so far
hoping they’ll jump in starting w/q a
me: how full is the room
Colin: pretty full – probably 80%
me: not bad
Colin: lots of repeaters from yesterday
it’s good
me: what was the vibe at the end of yesterday
Colin: hmm – it was pretty good…
i think the bok/hyman
and ff sessions were great
the first sessions were pretty productive
and the last ones could’ve been better – we
weren’t proscriptive enough
and w/so many issues on table
i think there was some wheel spinning, return to old arguments
rather than a reframe
i’d give it (hard grader that i am)
b+/a-
me: do people have thoughts about how to pull together better?
Colin: i think karim will do a good session this afternoon
he wants to take on
knowledge beyond authority
i think that’ll be good
and david w. will do a good wrap
i think yesterday was good – but a reality check:
lots of shared zones in some areas
some real contention, too
uptake on ideas of norms
but fear from lords: advocacy for drm, for university enforcement, etc.
which was not welcomed
indeed, some advocacy for digging in against it.
Sent at 10:07 AM on Friday
me: if you had to pick out one issue on which there was joinder and prospect for moving forward
Colin: the low hanging fruit seemed to be norms/procedures for fair use
the question is whether content folks
will give that up (even in their interest)
w/out enforcement.
but i think that’s trust building across sectors
mutually beneficial (reduce lawyer loads/uncertainty)
hopefully productive (more neat content)
but also will be tricky
me: are the reed elsivier folk still there
Sent at 10:12 AM on Friday
Colin: not sure – dreamt about ys chi, who i didn’t find in afternoon – i think mark seely is
Sent at 10:13 AM on Friday
me: could you get whatever corp folk together for a face to face conversation
Colin: and ask them if they’re game for that?
me: or do you think i could ask them by email to reet me in second life
i want to ask them to help us put together a norms generating meeting using our invitational power to do it on an agenda of their choosing
Colin: i think that’s a longshot – unless they’re sl’ers
one question – is whether we need to do an internal norm setting first
or start in dialogue w/them
concern being that we don’t have our own ducks in a row.
me: norms are positive
we have that duck in a row
uncertainty is killing us
Colin: agreed
me: except the lawyers
Sent at 10:17 AM on Friday
Colin: any objection to picking them off one by one?
me: no objection
Colin: i’ll give it a whirl – agenda of their choosing?
norms around fair use or wider?
Sent at 10:20 AM on Friday
me: tell me this is being recorded
ethan’s observation wonderful
terry martin perfect
Colin: it is
me: yes we are on both sides
yes we are reed elsivier as well as we are harvard mit
citizen professor
citizen student
citizen
that’s what those dots are
knowledge above authority is the knowledge that our challenge is to govern ourselves
knowledge above authority is norm that we live by without a stick beating on us
norm generation is self governance
now we are talking
terry dramatic pause
yes
Colin: this is JP
me: this question terry is on is right on
Colin: I want to channel you for the close to this session
me: hi jp
Colin: what should I say
me: fantastic
let this discussion go
who is speaking
is this harry
Colin: was Harry yup
me: did the harvard interactive media group pass out their magazine
who now
Colin: not sure — student I think
now Nolan Bowie
Sent at 10:30 AM on Friday
me: right on nolan
Colin: colin back now
me: hey colin, i’m loving this
Colin: great – ball is rolling now!
me: who is this
Colin: dunno
this one either – i know him, but don’t remember his name/affil.
me: nolan let’s start by connecting cambridge
colin i’m imagining this going up on my blog out from under chatham rules
like i’m speaking through you to the conference
Colin: no rules today!
me: this guy, who is he, he’s great
Colin: i was thinking about your mail
me: network of networks, harvard mit, …, university
Sent at 10:37 AM on Friday
Colin: of last night – i think you just need to take out the names – or clear it with them…
no chatham today
me: ok

***
hey tree, jp, ethan,
i was on im with colin listening and watching the video stream
i’ve posted the chat to my blog
with thoughts about dots and knowledge and such

you have put the questions out there beautifully
ethan just beautifully coming in behind
his comment an essay to be written
terry and harry lewis and terry martin and others whose names we need to for post edit
solid and wise
and bless nolan for bringing it home

thank you
i’m off to the operating room
hope to be back by the end of the afternoon

each dot is a citizen of cyberspace
gene koo is i hope bringing in for a landing our effort to connect the dots with the dred scott question of citizenship into our start at a new kind of casebook from a new concept of university
connecting us back to 1998 Internet & Society

eon

howard


lederer logic
on the phone last night excited that his thought over the last year has come together on how poker skill dominates chance
what is skill
what is chance
first howard imagines a form of poker with skill stripped out of it
holdem but without bet bluff fold
best poker hand wins

he names the winning hand in this game the luckiest hand
this is a game of pure chance

compare the role of the luckiest hand in no limit hold’em poker

for pots won without a showdown (which howard estimates to be 60-70% of hands – data will peg the percentage more precisely) the luckiest hand is irrelevant. for these hands skill dominates chance.

for pots won by other than luckiest hand (i’ll be interested to see what the percentage of such hands), skill dominates.

for pots won by the luckiest hand the win itself may be attributable in some measure to luck, but how much the player with the luckiest hand wins depends upon the player’s skill in keeping other players in.

is2k7

amar did i hear you say we have two deans coming
one from divinity one from public health
we want them on the panel

who should have an avatar at the table of university
who should come sit down to talk with us
about the copyright cocoon surrounding us as we burst to create in cyberspace

eon

bel air

jeremy to share the audio of our meeting here with you upon my blog i cannot do
the avatar of the movie industry sits down with university
each has an ordered list of top ten want from the other
jeremy suppose we could only get to each other here open on the net
how could we share our common mp3 with each other without sharing it with all

industry come play poker with university
pull up your avatar to the meta table
hey john schulman you don’t have to come in person to be a player in the game

poker university

wsj yay hay!

“>thank you neil
tall like cary grant
voice deep and resonant

poker:

The Online Etymology Dictionary
[snip]
poker (2) Look up poker at Dictionary.com
“card game,” 1834, Amer.Eng., perhaps from the first element of Ger. Pochspiel, name of a card game similar to poker, from pochen “to brag as a bluff,” lit. “to knock, rap” (see poke (v.)). Another version traces the word to Fr. poque, also said to have been a card game resembling poker. The earlier version of the game in Eng. was called brag. Slang poker face “deadpan” is from 1885.

bluff comes closer than bet to the essence of the game

RIAA v. UNIVERSITY

i was for letting you go after the folks putting the stuff up, like taking their sites down with tech,
i’m against you going after kids who click something available to click on the net
like don’t click that
don’t click that
like they are just supposed to know
and we are supposed to teach them
bullshit
important stuff to teach them in the time i have
like how to resist law they don’t like
how to change it

to set law the task of teaching don’t click this don’t click that is to demean it
bring it into disrepute
to make us your agent in enforcing that demeans us too

Fwd: Blogging by email

Fwd: Blogging by email

test test test
zeno it worked
there seems to be some mess on it but yes there it is up on the net!

you are making it up as fast as you can getting it out getting it up there making it art if you can
telling story fast as you can chasing the demon that chasing you here talking to myself

now all i need to do is find again the magic address to which to send
no i do not see it what did i do
found it forwarded it dynomite bad idea
now i get to go and look

maybe i should tell them what i’m up to talking to jeremy going to L A
a new story of american democracy

recognize us we are friendly we take care of you

the genius of the net comes from its design
its principles demand and demonstrate elegance
open
clean

call your dogs off
trust us we are honest brokers
we have interests on both sides
from where i see this is a downhill battle
come talk with us
stop hurting our children
stop teaching them to hate the law
stop telling them that you know better what it is
stop telling us that we must teach your children that the world they must live in is one cluttered with permissions and transactions for the communication of ideas

stop talking down to them as i am talking down to you
see from the other side of necker cube
rely on the ediface that got you here
keep it going best you can

show them josh wolf’s trial
imagine if you let your artists loose upon the net to make the hottest stuff
call off your dogs
you are great aggregators of content great story tellers

use the vault
use your fault
change paradyme
shift burden of proof on fair use for university
shift default from closed to open
help us tell stories to the children of the net
give us fair use for that purpose

poker



poker is quintescentially an american game, american invention, universal in its appeal, open as the frontier to anyone to learn the skill of bid and call and bluff and raise and fold. no better game to learn how to win and lose and how to feel about it. no finer way to come to terms with your personal relationship to risk and resource, finding balance in the flow of signals in the brain for defense, for aggression, for neutrality, women, men, old, young, every race, every religion, a moment to learn a lifetime to master, understanding that the ante and the blinds buy you the privilege of neutrality in the choice you have to fold, but every time you fold you pay a little. you need a little aggression to offset this leak in the assets you have to live with. you start to feel and see that this is how you play not just this game but the game of life.

here’s email from amwoods at hlcentral

“Andrew M. Woods”
to me

show details
7:25 pm (7 hours ago)

Professor-

I happened upon this the other day, and have been meaning to forward it to you:

http://media.www.hlrecord.org/media/storage/paper609/news/2006/03/16/News/FirstTimer.Wins.Charity.Poker.Tournament-1688977.shtml

While the article isn’t exactly a stirring defense of the importance of skill in poker – a first time player won the tournament, you may be interested to notice at the bottom of paragraph 2 the article describes the faculty participation in the public interest charity tournament. That faculty included one Professor Charles Nesson, “who hung in for several rounds before being knocked out by 1L Andrew Woods”. 🙂

(While I may have put you out, you do look better in the photo – they only got the side of me…)

-Andrew

——————————–

Andrew M. Woods
Director of Events
HL Central
(310) 254-5218
amwoods@law.harvard.edu

as we spoke last night poker university took shape
enquiry into the genius of the game top down
professor and professor with sister annie
andy bloch producer
full tilt on a table of ten
avatars driven by students of all ages in classrooms round the globe
global classrooms to engage our poker curriculum in which the culmination course is tournaments
open to developing nations as an expression of american democracy

eon here
the crazy guy of lessig’s dedication
let poker be the message that goes out through libraries and classrooms
it’s the spirit of america we are fighting for

assume you are playing poker with a fundamentalist
schelling’s madman at the door
are you bargaining with him or is he bargaining with you

this is a better game than the game with bombs and guns
people who make bombs and guns are the enemy
why prefer their game to ours

we make the bombs and guns and the markets into which to sell them
we are on a road to blowing ourselves apart if we can’t figure out how to find our norms

one thing you can say about a fundamentalist
their action is grounded in deep spirit
twisted we may think to evil ends yet spirit nonetheless

suppose a poker game between the avatar of our spirit and the avatar of his
what would be our conversation
what have i got that he wants that i can give him
what is he looking for
he says he’s looking for one thing but you know he is looking for another

suppose the chips in the game are the minds of people
the question in each individual mind which spirit speaks truth in its understanding of the world
quick
the stick
fight
youre right

so okay let’s get to it
teresa and librarians of the world
eIFL.net consortium of consortia of libraries
communia thematic network
where better to assemble to play a global online poker game than is community libraries and schools starting with solar power electricity, hardware to structure and control the flow of electric bits, connection to the net and thus to UNIVERSITY

the berkman center has a grant from the state department of the united states of america to teach democracy. american democracy is spirit in US to express.

as i type into this blog i am listening to the recording of our poker meeting before the formal meeting began, low murmers and talk of separate conversations with lovely jokes. annie tells the story of a man addicted to water, was drinking eight gallons a day, he died, and me telling the story of last year’s public service poker tournament pictured above in which andrew m woods knocked me out, how we couldn’t do it this year because of government regulation.

uploading it to z share
hope it works
i’ll bet there are some folks out there deep enough into the game to listen to poker pros talking poker to each other
yes it does! here it is: http://www.zshare.net/audio/poker1-mp3.html

last night another berkman book party, david weinberger, everything is miscellaneous, a gift to all librarians as we come to see internet as library. david, a poker question. i have written to game theorists asking them how they classify texas hold’em poker in the taxonomy of their rigorous systematic way of understanding our reality. in answer to the conceptual question of relationship of one think to another miscellaneous doesn’t tell us much. are you speaking to scientists as well as to librarians?

josh wolf’s trial in second life

this video was done by bernhard drax, who was one of the jurors in the trial, participating from germany.
http://www.bernharddrax.com

for more, check out the postmortem by the prosecutors