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how to play a hand

Published by nesson on April 28, 2007 in General, harvard and poker. Closed

at the noir bar after our poker meeting howard lederer told me about an interesting hand of poker he played with gabe kaplan. i asked him to send me the link.
http://www.nbcsports.com/poker/1083822/feature1.html

the hand occurs about 1/3rd of the way through, and here’s my blog of the experience of watching and listening to the leadup and the segment.

glitz for a full minute at the beginning
how the people who talk the game play the game
howard says he’s an analyst
mike sexton pushes it doing his thing
conversation going at the table
this is not a good idea because conversation at the poker table is desultory
blind 200 400
gabe in the big blind with 24000
lederer on the button 10s 7s with 15000
raises to 1200
kaplan qs js
call
flop 2d Ah 8s
gabe checks
howard bets 1300
gabe calls

turn 2h
kaplan bets 3000
howard calls

river Ad
gabe checks
howard bets 3000
gabe folds

in this hand there is a script expressed in the calls and raises
as judith donath observes this is communicative betting
howard, i’d love you to tell the story in words play by play
at each move pause and let clippinger and halperin have their say
this is pure poker

what did gabe think howard had
how did howard lead gabe to think that

here’s my morning audio walk transcribed:

april 27, 2007, i fell off my bike last night, skidded in the rain when i put on the brakes, not too bad considering, felt my helmet hit the pavement, felt the cushion of it, felt my shoulder hit, no cushion. i feel it now. it happened after charles ogletree’s conference salute to john doar

knowledge above authority -if knowledge is above authority and wants authority to respond to knowledge wisely how would one best proceed? is it a prisoner’s dilemma in which we are always required to tat? or can we give a little tit without getting carried away.

what are the ways in which issues press your buttons. what are the issues on which you could loosen up.

play with digital media that’s the name of our game -michael yap writes back delighted to collaborate in playing with digital media -back to singapore this summer comes state of play -i began this play with you when last i was there walking along that lovely esplanade out in front of the ritz hotel enjoying a weed in the land of lee quan yu and then offering that information to the crew i was teaching cyberlaw to, eight faces from the office of the attorney general at full attention, intelligence engaged -how could singaporeans learn to loosen up, how about coming to jamaica, how could jamaicans learn to tighten up just enough to get the place running right, visit singapore -suppose each were to create the other in virtual reality what would the other look like -could we meet in second life to learn to play poker together

on the thursday night of the is2k7 conference there is an open slot, a time for people who have had food for thought to sit down and play some poker -suppose we were to play in a newly structured way, suppose we were to record it, make it an asset, fill the airwaves -would we enjoy would we learn.

my shoulder stiff and aching last night i was up in the middle wathcing tv, watched poker after dark on nbc, saw little new in form over world poker tour but could see a more interesting way of using the talents there on display, wrote to howard this morning to see what he would say.

2+2

Published by nesson on April 27, 2007 in General, poker and rhetorical space. Closed

i read andrew’s blog with excitement, read response on 2+2
snag on This is wrong. The only reason it [poker] is unpopular with the very religious is because it specifically says in the Bible that gambling is wrong and you shouldn’t do it. It’s as simple as that to them. It would be a tall order to try to convince an elderly religious grandmother that poker was, in fact, not like gambling at all.

That is our challenge. We take it on. Poker is not gambling. Poker is learning life. Poker is freedom to play a game we love online. Poker is a way we can agree on internet democracy.

you of the christian right who honor the word of the bible, we ask you to consider that americans had not invented the game of poker when the bible word gambling was written. gambling meant betting on a chance outcome like the roll of dice.

seek the spirit you are looking for in the game and you will find it. approach the mystery in your brain. let it beguile you please you teach you lead you on. come on grandma, play poker, it’s not gambling, it’s pricing, it’s bluffing, your kids can teach you how.

saw the poster for is2k7 yesterday leaping out with light and clear message
civil rights with ogletree and terry lenzner and pictures from selma
a2k tomorrow at yale

invitation to barney frank to come and keynote
play the hand of government
how would you work things out

back to 2+2 snag again on a comment on foucault’s blog

It flat doesn’t matter if poker is a game of skill. That’s not the point.
big point to me
the reason to single it out
that distinguishes it from gambling
transcends gambling to a higher plane of logic mathematics and human understanding

foucault is the avatar who speaks the words and sets the tone
describes the meeting like a roman a clef

foucault writes:
It wasn’t really a panel or a public event, it was about a dozen people in a room strategizing and sharing ideas. In addition to the people I mentioned there were a few HLS students who also played poker, a guy who did AI research, an Israeli lawyer who I think represented some poker sites (he didn’t seem to speak English that well and didn’t say much), a reporter from the Wall Street Journal, and a woman who was studying lying or something. Not all of these people were there at the same time. As I said, it was pretty random that I ended up being there at all, and I was mostly just listening, though I occasionally tried to steer the conversation in a more productive direction when I felt we were getting bogged down in a pointless disagreement or dead-end strategy.

who were these people
can we connect foucault’s description with the info on the wiki

***

here’s from yinglan off my gmail

Yinglan Tan
to me, Michael_YAP

1:23 am (5 hours ago)
Michael,

I trust your visit to the West Coast was productive. Drawing your attention to the East Coast, I had interesting chats today with two distinguished faculty at the Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School.

Professor Charles Nesson, William F. Weld Professor of Law and Founder of the Berkman Center for Internet and Society, is enthusiastic about “Poker University”, a vehicle for game theory to be accessible to every youth, played in the digital space with links with internet democracy.

[snip]

Prof Nesson has expressed an interest to visit to Singapore in the summer and continue the dialogue with you, I shall leave it on your end to connect with him.

[snip]

Michael Yap runs the Interactive Digital Media Initiative and is also Deputy CEO of the Media Development Agency.

Warmly,
Yinglan

seeking a Declaratory Judgment in the Court of Public Opinion

Published by nesson on April 24, 2007 in General. Closed


continues
it’s the end of the world as we know it plays on speakers in my kitchen. sammy’s fed, fern is sleeping, water in the pool is warm, my body’s feeling fine, just a lttle stiff this morning. poker off the bat at 8:30 in the morning, dinner last night at sandrine’s as the frame. andy bloch beside me on my left, fern beside me on my right, dan walsh directly across the table from me like in a T, tyler tassin food his passion onthe end, andrew cross far left with bradt in the middle, amber and chuck on the other side, chuck wide. chuck won ten thousand dollars on a thirty dollar buy in and says he’s never played since so he’ll never be a loser, golf his passion. amber’s into finance, likes numbers, used to play poker but doesn’t much now, eyes that shine out, her passion finance . bradt is into declaratory judgments, his passion history, see his passion flash when he makes an argument. andrew into people, loves them. andy, like a bear to my left leaning forward eyes forward, ready to play the game for real, telling us how they cut in the commentary later, see it as a separate act, tournament life on the line. fern our teacher and photographer playing pass the camera around.

talk is naturally of poker, what will harold shaffer say about addiction? every parent knows some kid who got in trouble, maxed out mom’s credit card, stole the neighbor’s pocketbook. poker is gambling. gambling is an addiction. gambling is bad. q.e.d. your witness.

dan’s passion for the working of government in the service of his clients and his daughters, lobbyist for the poker industry wants to know is rounders real, talked about barney frank’s bill, told barney frank stories.

how can we win in the court of public opinion. how can we show the mothers of the kids who are getting in trouble how better to guide their kids. can we make a movie in which mom learn’s how to play the game. we should hear this morning about growing up in a poker playing family,
in handling risks so that kids find the learn.

session one today on addiction. you can blog it, oops, that comes first. what happens to the intellectual property this meeting represents? think from the core creative commons with outlet through the net. let the wall street journal message follow, let radio follow, let images and audio arranged in different streams from a sensibility that freedom to play online poker and net neutrality internet democracy go hand in hand. we are producing story. let’s do it right.

if you can talk about a problem civilly you can deal with the other problem that are getting in your way. learning how to talk about a problem civilly is what cyber law is all about. there is no law in cyberspace but code and norms.

so yes, first session on addiction, then next on what we learn and how we teach. third what is it that we teach, the nature of the skill, what is it that we know. fourth on where we go.

hello wiki/wikia – hello clippinger – hello fern

Published by nesson on April 20, 2007 in berkmania, family, General, rhetorical space and trust. Closed

first fern
read up from the bottom
which way does mind flow go
i & i
want to know

pteridologist

A fern is any one of a group of about 20,000 species of plants classified in the phylum or division Pteridophyta, also known as Filicophyta. The group is also referred to as polypodiophyta, or polypodiopsida when treated as a subdivision of tracheophyta (vascular plants). The study of ferns is called pteridology; one who studies ferns is called a pteridologist.

a fern sleeps upstairs dreaming of a man: is it me?
is she complement to me with all my waking energy
going somewhere else.

i rise now to fly down the mountain having told myself the story i am changing
charge out to meet and play with men
how many times have i left her this way only to get high and come rushing back to her
no good
she does not love me when i’m high
she loves that other guy

she wants straight love
i am crooked
she wants attention
i place it else where
she has a grievance
i can see
she wants me
needs me
where am i
here with you ready to rush to her again
while she is with another guy

how high is high
where does it go
how do i get down

don’t rush back
signal welcome
let her come to you
here i am
talking to myself

clippinger
thank you for a lovely party
thank you for a crowd of one
thank you to a lovely group
please invite them to my party
is2k7

i want everyone to come
i want the world to see
university
a smoother cooler version of reality
in real virtuality

john starts his lovely book
way in north new hampshire
follows his thought
all the way to war
feel this man
he is a man of peace

listen to this man
feel peace in him
feel peace in where he comes from
trust you can approach

pteridologist
what does it mean?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fern

i have just requested a wikia in the name of eon
http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Eon
in the cause of university
wikia university
we come in peace
we are firm and friendly
well, some times maybe knot

admire the process by which the process is made
click here

win or lose you pay your dues

Published by nesson on April 16, 2007 in berkmania, General and rhetorical space. Closed

civil rights conference here at harvard april 26. open knowledge conference at yale on the 27th. mobilization is the theme. pat will send our invitation out to those who atteneded the user generated content conference in dc. all invited to is2k7 to mobilize university to see and reach for its mission in cyberspace to educate the children of the world. teach them from the age of three to come to university. teach teachers how to offer threads to follow scratched in code they can unravel. points of departure for young minds to go that lead them to the land of open knowledge.

last night i sat with becca and dean to plan our open channel. amanda congdon email here dropped in later as flow rolls on to mitch, email dropped in here, flows on to the pee-da-HAN, the culture that everett writes about in contest with chomsky with input from pinker and tecumsah fitch. fern fascinated by it led me in to conversation with rebecca about recursion. is it the fundamental element of thought. is it the fundamental element of language. is it what enables our minds to be conscious.

makes sense to me.

what then in the culture of the peedaHAN makes their minds so strong that they can resist the delight of thinking past and future? everett says their focus is the present on it so strong they have no interest in anything back or beyond. one would think a trait so strong must be trained into a baby’s mind very young and very strong to so sharply curtail its natural curiosity and delight in learning. drop in email chomsky.

marc hauser, of hauser fitch chomsky 1994, will be at our poker meeting april 24. i’ve asked steve pinker to attend, have not heard back. noam turned me down. he hasn’t played poker in years. drop in email here. greg raymer, annie duke, andy bloch, howard lederer, and still hoping for chris jesus furguson, have you a model lurking in your minds of how recursion explains poker skill.

Recursion refers to a procedure that calls itself, or to a constituent that contains a constituent of the same kind, set within set. Recursion enables infinite complexity from finite input. the complexity we see. can we see simplicity.

e п i

Theoretical computer scientists often distinguish between tail recursion and true recursion. Roughly, in tail recursion, a procedure invokes another instance of itself as a final step (or, in the context of language, a constituent contains an identical kind of constituent at its periphery). In true recursion, a procedure invokes an instance of itself in mid-computation and then must resume the original procedure from where it left off (or a constituent contains an identical kind of constituent embedded inside it). True recursion requires a computational device with a stack of pointers (or an equivalent mechanism) to keep track of where to return after an embedded procedure has been executed. Tail recursion can be mimicked (at least in input-output behavior or “weak generative capacity”) by a computational device that implements simple iteration, where one instance of a procedure can be completed and forgotten by the time the next instance has begun. drop in mandelbrot . Tail recursion, however, cannot be mimicked by iteration when it comes to computations that require more than duplicating input-output behavior (“strong generative capacity”), such as inferences that depend on the grouping and labeling of constituents.

what is different about the peedaHAN

how are they not thinking like us

how are we knot thinking like they

eon

kiwi

Published by nesson on April 15, 2007 in General. Closed

Harvard law professor steps aside following racial flap

By THEO EMERY, Associated Press
BOSTON (April 22, 2002 11:52 p.m. EDT) – A Harvard Law School professor has agreed to temporarily stop teaching a class that has become the center of a controversy sparked by a racial slur that appeared on the Internet, a university official said Monday.

Professor Charles R. Nesson will continue to attend the class, but for the rest of the semester it will be taught by two colleagues, said Todd Rakoff, dean of the doctor of laws program.

The professor’s decision caps a tumultuous series of events sparked by the Internet posting, including a student walkout.

Notes from one of Nesson’s first-year tort law classes, posted last month by a student, contained the word “nig.” The word was in the student’s summary of a property case involving restrictive racial covenant.

Another student, Michelle Simpson, complained to the administration about the posting and on April 4 received an e-mail that read in part: “If you, as a race, want to prove that you do not deserve to be called by that word, work hard and you will be recognized.”

The e-mail was from one of Simpson’s classmates, who later apologized.

The e-mail sparked a classroom discussion during which Nesson offered to hold a mock trial and “represent” the classmate who made the comment.

The back-and-forth was then reprinted on an anonymous flier with a crudely drawn swastika on it. The flier was stuffed into about 80 student mailboxes.

The law school administration and university President Lawrence Summers have condemned the incidents. But protests have continued, including a walkout by about 400 students at the law school on April 15.

Nesson has agreed to step aside because he believed he “could do more for his students this way,” Rakoff said.

The professor declined to comment Monday.

Simpson said she hopes the administration will be more aggressive in preventing similar incidents. Rakoff said the school is setting up workshops on multiculturalism for professors, along with sessions for new students on negotiating “difficult conversations.”

Christmas morning, 2005. Got up and went for coffee, time to sit and think. Becca last night sat across from me at our kitchen table, Fern on my left, Wayne standing, back against the counter. She told me she thought i had gone crazy. Fern recalled how they tried to hold me back. I wish they would do a group blog with me. I guess I’m starting one. They want me to stop rushing, they, all the people who love me. I want a process to slow me down, generate my message in a structure that lets adjustments be made before it goes public. Public, meaning that it becomes fodder to feed tongues that wag and put down, ridicule, dismiss.

Reputation. It just occurred to me that I have left it out of my Evidence lecture line up. I wonder why. I could not remember Michelle Simpsons’s name, had to google to find it, and even then could not remember the name of grace, the story i have to tell. That was Becca’s challenge to me last night. She says i can’t do it, tell her story. I can’t do it because i am white and Grace is black, like different sides of the necker cube.

I take Alex Lee as my teacher. I’ve been reading her journal of her few days in Jamaica, totally admiring her remarkable ability just to let it flow. I’d love just to do the same here. Blog. Let it flow. She calls me poppa, gave me the name. I like it.

sitting in limbo – bless you kevin

Published by nesson on April 15, 2007 in General, Jah Cure, Kevin Wallen, rhetorical space and SET. Closed

just found this post in my unpublished draft, as far as i can tell it’s kevin in london with me at a conference some time back, just as it came off his fingertips first time.

As i sit here in London England as an international Blogers confrence i wonder what this really meas to jamaica. and as a result i have been haveing conversations with indivduals i have met oter the past few hours. the thing i am getting out of all this is that there is a great interest in jamaica however people really want to see Jamaica better represented on the internet. after having that conversation i started wondering to my self exactly what it is that the world is seeing of Jamaica on the web and the first thing that came to mind was “you are in tuned to the thinking man’s talk show, Perkings on line on power 106” and then when you tune in there is just this huge amoung of redoric and it is always the same . now i start to ask myself the question if that is what is up there and that is what the world is heartin and seening on a daily basis how can jamaicans get to where they want to do. so far we have done ok by having other peoople tell our story however i think it is time that we tell our own story. we need to find the positives and get them out there. with bloging through the Jamaica Express we are creating a different and unique kind of news paper, with pod casting we are creating radion

what if we could get agrop of Jamaicans who have the same ideas that we have, the idea of wanting to make a difference, by becoming the change they wish to see in the world thus creating the world that they would want to live in. so rether than haveing to listen to Perkings Online they could listen to something that made more sense. In the prison in Jamaica we have seen where the inmates have made a change, they have first change the way they view themselves then proceded to change the way they view they ones closest to them and now they are better equiped to make a meaningful contribution to Jamaica.

Jamaica’s story is being told, who is telling it and who do we want to tell it. there is also the thought that Jamaica’s story is worth something and that is the level of interest that others seem to have and nothing else, as a result we find ourself in a situation where people are taking from the land and planting nothing in return in some case they are destroying the earth so nothing else can be planted on it and as a result there is not much for the people to benifit from.. What would it mean if we put ourself in a position where we can recognize what is happening and some how position ourselves to better take advantage of the products that comes out of Jamaica without taking anything away from the people, sensoring or supressing the people.

no copyleft lynching is2k7 guarantee

Published by nesson on April 11, 2007 in General and harvard. Closed

larry and pam
please come
you are cordially invited to is2k7

henry
please come
bring your friends

here’s email from henry

Charlie:

We (i.e., Elsevier) are willing to contribute $10K to the conference, provided we get some sort of appropriate sponsorship acknowledgement.

In addition to inviting me (I’ve received and happily accept), I would be grateful if you could get invitations issued to YS Chi, Vice Chair of Elsevier, Mark Seeley, General Counsel of Elsevier, and Nick Fowler, Director of Strategy of Ellsevier.

We are still discussing the conference with a number of people in the industry who we feel would make a contribution to the event. We have encountered a degree of reluctance to engage in this sort of discussion, but I hope to be able to get back to you soon with quality names.

Best Regards,

Henry

i wrote back asking the obvious question, to which henry further replied:

Charlie:

The fear we’ve heard is that this will be yet another copyleft lynching party such as periodically staged by Larry and Pam.

I do think that a list of the tentatively commited university representatives (which I would use discreetly and with appropriate disclaimers), would be very helpful in showing that this is not at all the same old-same old.

Best Regards,

Henry

to which i replied:
henry, i give assurance that is2k7 will not be a copyleft lynching. the idea of the conference is to recognize the tremendous potential generativity of university in internet space and the opportunities of all involved to profit. the idea of a library of university of the future is one in which users (students) have access to information both copyrighted and open. derek bok is our honorary chair. sid verba is our honoree. our premise is that we (university) needs a symbiotic relationship with the corporate world. our attendees include librarians, museum curators, archivists, presidents, provosts, deans, counsels, professors, students. the tone and civility of the conversation engaged in between Y.S. Chi and Stuart Shieber will continue. We are looking for ways through to a new paradyme.
-charlie

colin maclay chimes in:
hi henry,

to that end, if you have ideas on framing, format, invitees, or other means we can use to help us towards the reset of these relationships and the development of the new paradigm, we are ALL ears!

best regards,

colin

are you following this?

eon

seymour pappert – nicholas negroponte – mitch resnick

Published by nesson on April 11, 2007 in General. Closed

i am sitting at an open rectangular table listening only partly to discussion of fair use hearing mention of second life.

letter to seymour pappert
carried by bob massie
homage to nicholas negroponte and mitch resnick
thinking from scratch

this is harvard this is mit
this is university

Dear Seymour
we hear you. we take your message and carry it forward.
kids like to learn by discovery. xo opens a magical world to them, except it’s real. this is second life.

i ask other teachers to join with me to teach the children of all the nations all the wisdom we have learned

think seseme street on youtube
access to bits with tools to mix
programs and puzzles and questions
to delight and amuse and lead along a path
seseme seed on the net

peace corps come alive
prison a state of mind
program from scratch

eon

annie duke we love you

Published by nesson on April 11, 2007 in General, harvard, jamaica and Kevin Wallen. Closed

she’s coming. what would you think of seeing if there are women who would help organize a gathering of women law students and their friends to talk with annie duke and perhaps with others in the evening of april 24 in a venue like langdell south about the plusses for women in playing poker. i believe that women law students can hardly get better training to win in the professional worlds of law and business than to learn to hold their own and win at the poker table.
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