{"id":1016,"date":"2008-06-01T13:18:03","date_gmt":"2008-06-01T20:18:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/2008\/06\/01\/hugeasscity-has-me-thinking-about-vic"},"modified":"2008-08-22T10:04:29","modified_gmt":"2008-08-22T17:04:29","slug":"hugeasscity-has-me-thinking-about-victorias-centennial-square-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/2008\/06\/01\/hugeasscity-has-me-thinking-about-victorias-centennial-square-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Hugeasscity has me thinking about Victoria&#8217;s Centennial Square (again)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(Note: might add some links\/ photos later, but no time now &#8212; written on the fly&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Dan Bertolet of <a href=\"http:\/\/noisetank.com\/hugeasscity\/\">Hugeasscity<\/a> hits all the right points in his discussion of what makes a <a href=\"http:\/\/noisetank.com\/hugeasscity\/2008\/06\/01\/good-urban-plaza\/\">good urban plaza<\/a>.\u00a0 He includes a &#8220;wow!&#8221; photo of Seattle&#8217;s Garden of Remembrance, which, with its relatively steep grade, allows for steps oriented in such a way that they provide &#8220;natural&#8221; seating for people who want to &#8220;watch the action on 2nd Ave.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This got me thinking about Victoria&#8217;s own piece of urban misery, Centennial Square: it&#8217;s very rarely used, and it&#8217;s really badly designed.\u00a0 There&#8217;s no reason to be in Centennial Square, which was built by deleting a street, but didn&#8217;t replace the street with any reasons for people actually to cross the square.<\/p>\n<p>What follows are my ruminations on Centennial Square, which won&#8217;t be of much interest to anyone not familiar with Victoria or the Square, but here goes.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve ever put on an event at the Square, you&#8217;ll know that a big chunk of it lies in the shadow of the old 3-story City Hall, a protected heritage building.\u00a0 This is the &#8220;south-east&#8221; part of the Square.\u00a0 Shadowing from City Hall makes being in that section of the square really uncomfortable, particularly since dank shade isn&#8217;t especially welcome anyway in a climate which never gets very hot, even in summer.\u00a0 What this suggests to me is that this particular plot would be ideal for another building &#8212; although I can hear the howls of outrage should any section of City Hall&#8217;s north facade be covered up by a new building.\u00a0 But there might be ways to work that problem, perhaps by incorporating the facade into the interior of an open-to-the-public glassy building.\u00a0 At any rate, my hypothetical structure would have to be really low-rise, so that the sun could penetrate to the north of it.\u00a0 A structure built on the edge of Douglas Street would, however, be able to draw more pedestrian traffic, and therefore bring people into the Square itself.<\/p>\n<p>The Square&#8217;s north-east section gets full sun (when it&#8217;s out), but that section is taken up by one privately-owned lot, plus a string of ugly (and mostly empty) &#8220;arcaded&#8221; venues (offices, dead shops, dead restaurants) facing into the Square, which are also part of an increasingly decrepit city-owned parkade from the sixties.\u00a0 The parkade is on the list of structures slated for removal\/ replacement.\u00a0 Douglas Street to the Square&#8217;s east is for the most part a thoroughfare, with lots of bus stops, but few reasons for pedestrians to linger on that strip of the block.\u00a0 To the west, there&#8217;s the Royal McPherson Theatre, and the north-west has the new CRD Headquarters building, which isn&#8217;t set snug to the north-west corner, but unfortunately is set back quite a ways, with yet another large-ish and hugely underused &#8220;plaza&#8221; at the corner of Fisgard and Government Streets.<\/p>\n<p>Thinking of Bertolet&#8217;s observation, that the Garden of Remembrance provides a vantage point for people- and action-watching, I started to wonder where you could sit in Centennial Square to do anything similar.\u00a0 The answer?\u00a0 You can&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>The Square is resolutely and stubbornly inward-turning: it presents a slightly walled and therefore slightly elevated patch of truly useless lawn with one big tree in the middle on the east edge (Douglas Street).\u00a0 (For a great aerial shot, see <a href=\"http:\/\/flickr.com\/photos\/thebugs\/402754197\/\">this flickr photo by thebugs<\/a>.\u00a0 South is at the top of the photo, north at bottom, east on the left, west on the right. The pink building near the center is City Hall; to the right you can make out the Square&#8217;s fountain; directly to the north of City Hall, you can recognize the grassy patch with its lone tree.)<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s nothing to see from the open grass patch, as it opens up on a part of the block that people hurry along since there&#8217;s absolutely nothing to stop for except the bus stop.\u00a0 And I don&#8217;t know about you, but watching people wait for the bus is really seriously depressing.\u00a0 Vistas to every other street are blocked off, with only two small &#8220;enticements&#8221; to glimpse some street action on the south-west and the north-west sections.\u00a0 They&#8217;re not bad, but neither are they enough.<br \/>\nConsider, however, that the parkade on the north edge is supposed to come down (in the bottom part of thebugs&#8217;s photo), and that perhaps the city could acquire the privately-owned lot on the north-east corner.\u00a0 There has been talk of replacing those buildings with some kind of new central library and civic auditorium, but let&#8217;s think about how that corner might also be worked to create a view cone on to the Hudson project now under renovation (not visible in thebugs&#8217;s photo; it would be in the lower left hand portion: part of the roof is visible).\u00a0 Once it&#8217;s fully built out (a conversion of the Hudson Bay department store into condos, plus 2 high-rise towers also for condos and shops), this project, which is a truly large undertaking, should inject a tremendous amount of life into this northern edge of downtown.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s just a thought, but:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>if a glassy &#8220;civic&#8221; structure were built next to City Hall on its north (because no one wants to be in that dank spot anyway, so you may as well put a building there instead),<\/li>\n<li>and the parkade on the Square&#8217;s north were replaced with something much better (a library, a civic auditorium),<\/li>\n<li>and the private lot on its north-east were acquired, too, then:<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It might be an opportunity to reconfigure the Square so that the Douglas Street frontage finally gets some &#8220;built interest,&#8221; while a clever view cone is opened toward the north-east, which opens onto the Hudson.\u00a0 The Hudson is in itself a magnificent structure from The Bay&#8217;s grand old department store days that literally deserves a view point.\u00a0 And furthermore, the Hudson will be a potential river of interest-producing activity worth watching once it&#8217;s finished and its ground-floor shops are open.\u00a0 Plus, seen from Centennial Square, the new view would be of a corner, not of a stretch of interest-bereft Douglas Street.\u00a0 Where things come together (corners) one\u00a0 usually finds more interesting to see.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Note: might add some links\/ photos later, but no time now &#8212; written on the fly&#8230;) Dan Bertolet of Hugeasscity hits all the right points in his discussion of what makes a good urban plaza.\u00a0 He includes a &#8220;wow!&#8221; photo of Seattle&#8217;s Garden of Remembrance, which, with its relatively steep grade, allows for steps oriented [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":311,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1795,2233,2345,1418],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1016","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-heritage","category-land_use","category-street_life","category-victoria"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1016","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/311"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1016"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1016\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1016"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1016"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/yulelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1016"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}