{"id":720,"date":"2004-12-23T09:40:38","date_gmt":"2004-12-23T13:40:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/metasj\/2004\/12\/23\/wp-critics-deemed-boring-competition-f"},"modified":"2004-12-23T09:40:38","modified_gmt":"2004-12-23T13:40:38","slug":"wp-critics-deemed-boring-competition-for-wikinews","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/2004\/12\/23\/wp-critics-deemed-boring-competition-for-wikinews\/","title":{"rendered":"WP critics deemed &#8216;boring&#8217;; competition for Wikinews"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a707'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For those of you who can&#8217;t wait for the next <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4clcg\">Quarto<\/a> to come out, here is a quick rundown of some media highlights from December:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Forbes<\/span> had one of their encyclopedia editors (they manage American<br \/>\nHeritage these days) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/home\/technology\/best\/2004\/1213\/bow001.html\">half-heartedly compare<\/a> WP to Britannica Online :<br \/>\nchecking Haydn, Millard Fillmore, warblers, King James II.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8230;Frederick<br \/>\nAllen, Managing Editor of American Heritage admitted, &#8216;it looks as if<br \/>\nWikipedia&#8217;s gotten a lot better, more thorough and more<br \/>\naccurate.&#8217;&#8230;Even the Wikipedia&#8217;s James II of Britain article beat<br \/>\nBritannica in size, reach and outside references&#8230;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n(For those of you keeping score at home, it is James II of &#8220;England&#8221;,<br \/>\nif you please.)<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Tim Bray sat down and wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tbray.org\/ongoing\/When\/200x\/2004\/12\/06\/Trustipedia\">a delightfully thoughtful piece<br \/>\n<\/a>on the emerging properties of &nbsp;Wikipedia.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8230;the<br \/>\nproposition that the Wikipedia is a misguided waste of time is boring.<br \/>\nSomething poorly-understood is happening here, and the observed results<br \/>\nare immensely better than intuition from first principles would<br \/>\nsuggest. This is interesting; it seems obvious to me that there are<br \/>\nlessons to learn here, about reference publishing in particular and<br \/>\nknowledge husbandry in general.<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>And journalists continue to get heated up about collaborative journalism:<\/p>\n<p>Mark Glaser wrote a passionate piece on the collaborative news org he<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/62nu4\">wants to work for<\/a>, almost a community Wikiproject (see also his earlier notes on <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5cxzu\">Wiki and journalism<\/a>).&nbsp; Then Mitch Ratcliffe spun a long editorial on <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5bm9z\">Wikinews itself<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>And now some local citizen journalism enterprises are starting to take shape:<br \/>\nfrom the fully-realized <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baristanet.com\">Baristanet<\/a>, &#8220;serving Montclair, Glen Ridge, and Bloomfield, NJ&#8221;, and the entire town of <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/432ea\">Greensboro, NC<\/a>&#8230;&nbsp; to <a href=\"http:\/\/shapeofdays.typepad.com\/pegasus_news\/\">Pegasus News<\/a>,<br \/>\n&#8220;launching in Dallas in late 2005, but with a cool blog up now,&#8221; which<br \/>\nplans to eventually expand to &#8220;every major U.S. city with a monopoly<br \/>\nnewspaper&#8221;&#8230; to Dan Gillmor&#8217;s &#8220;jumping out of a window, and building a<br \/>\nparachute in midair&#8221;<a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/66rag\"> departure from the SJ Merc<\/a> to start his own venture that enables and illustrates the kind of grassroots journalism he has been writing about.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>&nbsp;========<\/p>\n<p>Finally, a question for the style gurus: is it &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221; or &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221;?<br \/>\nSomeone had better start thinking about this, fast. A quick score sheet from recent pubs:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Frederick Allen, American Heritage editor &nbsp;: &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8211; Matt Rand, \/Forbes\/ writer : &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8211; Mitch Ratcliffe, veteran journalist : &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8211; Robert McHenry, Former \/Britannica\/ editor &nbsp;: [unintelligible]<br \/>\n&#8211; Tim Bray, Encyclophile : &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8211; Val Souza, Express Computer columnist, India : &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8211; Dr. &#8216;Alfaso&#8217; Gizmo, semi-anonymous journalist : [frothing, unintelligible]<br \/>\n&#8211; Wired Magazine, various writers : &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221;<br \/>\n<span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For those of you who can&#8217;t wait for the next Quarto to come out, here is a quick rundown of some media highlights from December: Forbes had one of their encyclopedia editors (they manage American Heritage these days) half-heartedly compare WP to Britannica Online : checking Haydn, Millard Fillmore, warblers, King James II. &#8230;Frederick Allen, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":135,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[206],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-720","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-a-la-mod"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p7iVvB-bC","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/135"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=720"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=720"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=720"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/sj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=720"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}