{"id":1433,"date":"2004-06-05T16:07:07","date_gmt":"2004-06-05T20:07:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/nateptest\/2004\/06\/05\/hooking-up-and-dating\/"},"modified":"2004-06-05T16:07:07","modified_gmt":"2004-06-05T20:07:07","slug":"hooking-up-and-dating","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/2004\/06\/05\/hooking-up-and-dating\/","title":{"rendered":"Hooking up and dating"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a337'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Last week&#8217;s NYT Magazine had <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2004\/05\/30\/magazine\/30NONDATING.html\">this article about the teenage culture of dating and sex<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>An interesting quote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;And while gay high-school boys frequently advertise that they<br \/>\n&#8221;don&#8217;t do hookups&#8221; and are only looking for relationships, fewer<br \/>\nstraight teenagers make that claim &#8212; and many make it clear that<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re looking for anything but commitment.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>&#8221;Straight teens have abandoned the rituals of dating, while<br \/>\ngay teens have taken them on,&#8221; says Peter Ian Cummings, the editor of<br \/>\nXY, a national magazine for young gay men. The Internet, Cummings says,<br \/>\nhas made it possible for heterosexual teenagers to act the way &#8221;most<br \/>\nof straight society assumes gay men act.&#8221;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think it&#8217;s quite interesting that the gay boys are acting in this<br \/>\nway.&nbsp; It seems that their understanding of the world&#8217;s working is<br \/>\nmuch more realistic than that of the straight teenagers.\n<\/p>\n<p>The straight teenagers in the article seem to have the attitude that<br \/>\nthe culture of hooking up that they have created will last only<br \/>\ntemporarily, that once they&#8217;re ready to &#8220;settle down&#8221; that there will<br \/>\nbe a mate and a life for them.&nbsp; But until then, they can have sex<br \/>\nwith no consequences.&nbsp; But I&#8217;d contend that they probably do<br \/>\nencounter some consequence, in that they don&#8217;t get the chance to do a<br \/>\nlot of learning about relationships while they are forming models of<br \/>\nrelationality.&nbsp; I fear the possibility that these straight kids<br \/>\nwon&#8217;t be able to find the sorts of relationships they want &#8220;when<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re ready&#8221; because they won&#8217;t have learned how to find and hold a<br \/>\nrelationship.\n<\/p>\n<p>In addition there seems to be an element of wanting what you can&#8217;t<br \/>\nor aren&#8217;t supposed to have.&nbsp; People in our society aren&#8217;t<br \/>\n&#8220;supposed to&#8221; have lots of random sex, just for the sake of sex, with<br \/>\nno relationality attached to it.&nbsp; The norm, at least on some<br \/>\nlevel, is that sex is supposed to somehow go with relationship.&nbsp;<br \/>\nWhat these kids are doing is a form of rebellion, like many of forms of<br \/>\nteenage rebellion, but this one may perhaps have long-term relational<br \/>\nconsequences, as opposed to dying one&#8217;s hair and so forth.\n<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the gay teenagers are &#8220;rebelling&#8221; in some sense,<br \/>\nalso.&nbsp; The straight people in those teens&#8217; lives tell them that<br \/>\nbeing gay has dreadful relational consequences (at least if their<br \/>\nupbringin has any similarity to mine).&nbsp; They&#8217;ll live lonely lives,<br \/>\nthey&#8217;ll never have children, the relationships that they do have will<br \/>\nbe unfulfilling, and they will be cut off from &#8220;normal&#8221; society.&nbsp;<br \/>\nThe normal is abnormal for gay kids, and so they strive for it with all<br \/>\nthat they&#8217;re worth.&nbsp; They try to court one another, to go to the<br \/>\nprom, to hold hands in public.&nbsp; They want to get married, perhaps<br \/>\nhave kids, and die with a person they love.\n<\/p>\n<p>The delicious irony in all this, is that it&#8217;s those who are<br \/>\nsupposedly unable to create and sustain stable, productive, socially<br \/>\nuseful, perhaps even ethical relationship who offer the better examples<br \/>\nfor all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week&#8217;s NYT Magazine had this article about the teenage culture of dating and sex. 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