{"id":1397,"date":"2004-02-29T11:34:55","date_gmt":"2004-02-29T15:34:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/nateptest\/2004\/02\/29\/brown-student\/"},"modified":"2004-02-29T11:34:55","modified_gmt":"2004-02-29T15:34:55","slug":"brown-student","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/2004\/02\/29\/brown-student\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Brown&#8221; student"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a270'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So I had this interaction with a student the other day that was kind of weird.&nbsp; Let me set it up for&nbsp; you.<\/p>\n<p>Last week (about 10 days ago) was the first time I had all of my<br \/>\nofficial new students in my sections.&nbsp; So I had a list of names<br \/>\nand people with those names showed up for 90 minutes in my<br \/>\npresence.&nbsp; There were 30 of them, and I got to know them pretty<br \/>\nmuch if they piped up and spoke a few times.<\/p>\n<p>This is pretty normal &#8212; when I get 30 or 50 new people in my life, I<br \/>\ntend to remember the ones in my line of vision or who make themselves<br \/>\nnoticed by talking.&nbsp; I get to know all of the students after a<br \/>\ncouple of weeks, after I&#8217;ve had a chance to figure out section dynamics<br \/>\na bit.<\/p>\n<p>So this student came up to me after class the other day, asking some<br \/>\nadvising questions (I&#8217;m also an undergraduate adviser in the<br \/>\ndepartment).&nbsp; I worked at answering them, and then, as they had<br \/>\nsome relevance for the course I am teaching in, I asked her, &#8220;Who is<br \/>\nyour teaching assistant?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You are,&#8221; she replied.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry,&#8221; I said.&nbsp; &#8220;I didn&#8217;t remember you for sure, and I<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t want to make a mistake in assuming you were one of my students.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not surprised that you forgot me.&nbsp; I&#8217;m brown, after all.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I should interject here that the student in question has the complexion<br \/>\nof someone whose ethnic background is Latin American.&nbsp; Her name is<br \/>\nalso a fairly common Hispanic first name for women, and her surname is<br \/>\ndefinitely Latino.&nbsp; Most of which doesn&#8217;t register for me,<br \/>\nespecially in the deparate attempt of the first weeks of class to just<br \/>\nconnect<br \/>\nnames with faces; I&#8217;m just trying to figure out who a student is, not<br \/>\nthe whole back story.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What do you mean?&#8221; I asked, somewhat taken aback to be accused of racial discrimination so brazenly.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve just had other TFs who can&#8217;t remember who I am because I&#8217;m<br \/>\nbrown.&nbsp; There was one who remembered everyone in the class except<br \/>\nme.&nbsp; There was one black girl, and he remembered her name.&nbsp;<br \/>\nHe remembered the names of all the Asian people&#8230;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well,&#8221; I noted, &#8220;it&#8217;s probably more that you didn&#8217;t speak up much in<br \/>\nclass the one time we&#8217;ve met so far.&nbsp; I just got 30 of you, and I<br \/>\nhaven&#8217;t memorized all of your faces and names yet, but I do tend to<br \/>\nremember the students who participate in our discussions.&nbsp; As for<br \/>\nbeing brown, I&#8217;m from California and have taught for a number of years<br \/>\nthere, where I had plenty of brown students, and yellow students, and<br \/>\nwhite students, and black students, so I doubt it had anything to do<br \/>\nwith your being brown.&nbsp; Probably that you didn&#8217;t speak up much.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I guess so.&nbsp; It&#8217;s just that I&#8217;ve had TFs who didn&#8217;t remember me because I&#8217;m brown.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And then we went on to discuss her advising question.<\/p>\n<p>A few notes here.&nbsp; I find the blindness to her own<br \/>\ndiscriminatory biases kind of surprising.&nbsp; She seems to imply that<br \/>\nAsian students, for example, are all the same, as a way of highlighting<br \/>\nthe overt discrimination that she encountered &#8212; if they are all the<br \/>\nsame or look it or something, and the teacher remembers their names,<br \/>\nthen it must really be discrimination that the one brown person didn&#8217;t<br \/>\nget noticed.&nbsp; Also, she seems to assume that I am just some<br \/>\nbrown-haired white guy, without knowing the larger facts of my life,<br \/>\ni.e., that I also belong to a minority group.&nbsp; If we wanted to<br \/>\nplay the victimology game here, I&#8217;ve got more claim in that regard than<br \/>\nshe does, even if I am a white guy.&nbsp; But I&#8217;m not interested in<br \/>\nthat game, because it&#8217;s not productive to my life as an individual<br \/>\ntrying to grow into a certain sort of fullness and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s<br \/>\nthe basis of an effective, engaged politics.<\/p>\n<p>I mentioned this to my advisor afterward, and her reaction was more<br \/>\nindignant than mine.&nbsp; &#8220;I would have told her, &#8216;You don&#8217;t want to<br \/>\ngo there,'&#8221; she said.&nbsp; And part of me wanted to do that.&nbsp; But<br \/>\nI&#8217;m not senior faculty with tenure, first off.&nbsp; Second, I wanted<br \/>\nmy student to understand that my non-recognition of who she was was<br \/>\npredicated on her less-than-stellar academic performance than anything<br \/>\nelse.&nbsp; There were better alternative explanations than that I<br \/>\ndiscriminated against her because of her ethnicity.<\/p>\n<p>Now, this student has prejudiced me against her in a worse way.&nbsp;<br \/>\nI&#8217;m aware that she tends to leap toward certain explanations, and that<br \/>\nher style tends to the combative, prejudicial, and negatively assumptive.&nbsp; Which<br \/>\nleaves a bad taste in my mouth in dealing with her. But I will also<br \/>\nprobably target my teaching to take out those foundations from under<br \/>\nher and get her thinking rather than emotionally reacting.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d be interested to hear how others would have reacted.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I had this interaction with a student the other day that was kind of weird.&nbsp; Let me set it up for&nbsp; you. 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