{"id":1190,"date":"2005-05-24T11:04:15","date_gmt":"2005-05-24T15:04:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/nateptest\/2005\/05\/24\/education-and-class\/"},"modified":"2005-05-24T11:04:15","modified_gmt":"2005-05-24T15:04:15","slug":"education-and-class","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/2005\/05\/24\/education-and-class\/","title":{"rendered":"Education and class"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a1042'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/05\/24\/national\/class\/EDUCATION-FINAL.html?hp\">Today&#8217;s Times article on class in America revolved around unraveling<br \/>\nthe links between educational attainment and class status in this<br \/>\ncountry<\/a>.&nbsp; The Times has been running <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/pages\/national\/class\/index.html?8dpc\">a series on the role of class in American society<\/a><br \/>\nfor the last couple of weeks, and it&#8217;s been generally excellent.&nbsp;<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s been quite good in dealing with the myth that there is no class or<br \/>\nthat it&#8217;s entirely malleable in our society.&nbsp; We may not have<br \/>\nformal class here, as in the European societies of old and new, and the<br \/>\nmovement between classes may be possible, but the series has done a<br \/>\ngood job of showing how one chances and changes in life are quite<br \/>\nlargely dependent on one&#8217;s social status.&nbsp; Medicine, education,<br \/>\nrelationships, military service&#8211;our experiences depend largely upon<br \/>\nthe combination education, occupation, income, and wealth play, and as<br \/>\ntime has gone on, it has become harder in the US to move up that ladder.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m still working out what I think about yesterday&#8217;s article on<br \/>\nevangelical Protestants&#8217; attempt to move up the class ladder, but more<br \/>\non that later this week.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the root of the problem, in some sense:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> Put another way, children seem to be following the paths of their<br \/>\nparents more than they once did. Grades and test scores, rather than<br \/>\nprivilege, determine success today, but that success is largely being<br \/>\npassed down from one generation to the next. A nation that believes<br \/>\nthat everyone should have a fair shake finds itself with a kind of<br \/>\ninherited meritocracy.<\/p>\n<p> In this system, the students at the best<br \/>\ncolleges may be diverse &#8211; male and female and of various colors,<br \/>\nreligions and hometowns &#8211; but they tend to share an upper-middle-class<br \/>\nupbringing. An old joke that Harvard&#8217;s idea of diversity is putting a<br \/>\nrich kid from California in the same room as a rich kid from New York<br \/>\nis truer today than ever; Harvard has more students from California<br \/>\nthan it did in years past and just as big a share of upper-income<br \/>\nstudents.\n  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is largely true here at Harvard.&nbsp; Yes, we have some poorer<br \/>\nkids, but by and large, our students are solidly middle class.&nbsp; I<br \/>\nknow only a couple of kids who qualify as &#8220;poor&#8221; (which seems to be<br \/>\npretty much in accord with the standard in the article of twice the<br \/>\npoverty line, or about $38,000).&nbsp; To a lesser extent, the same was<br \/>\ntrue at Berkeley; where we had poorer kids, they were less able than<br \/>\nthe richer kids, because they had not received the math, writing, and<br \/>\nscience training that kids at better schools had.&nbsp; They were more<br \/>\nlikely to get lower grades even as they might have tried harder.\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> &#8220;The same score reflects more ability when you come from a less<br \/>\nfortunate background,&#8221; Mr. Summers, the president of Harvard, said.<br \/>\n&#8220;You haven&#8217;t had a chance to take the test-prep course. You went to a<br \/>\nschool that didn&#8217;t do as good a job coaching you for the test. You came<br \/>\nfrom a home without the same opportunities for learning.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>But it<br \/>\nis probably not a coincidence that elite colleges have not yet turned<br \/>\nthis sentiment into action. Admitting large numbers of low-income<br \/>\nstudents could bring clear complications. Too many in a freshman class<br \/>\nwould probably lower the college&#8217;s average SAT score, thereby damaging<br \/>\nits <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usnews.com\/usnews\/edu\/college\/rankings\/rankindex_brief.php\" target=\"new\">ranking by U.S. News &amp; World Report<\/a>, a leading arbiter of academic prestige. Some colleges, like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.emory.edu\" target=\"new\">Emory University<\/a><br \/>\nin Atlanta, have climbed fast in the rankings over precisely the same<br \/>\nperiod in which their percentage of low-income students has tumbled.<br \/>\nThe math is simple: when a college goes looking for applicants with<br \/>\nhigh SAT scores, it is far more likely to find them among well-off<br \/>\nteenagers.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>One thing we in the elite universities could do would be to ignore<br \/>\nUS News for a few years.&nbsp; Seriously, how will even some decrease<br \/>\nin rankings affect the Ivies and their private-university<br \/>\nequivalents?&nbsp; Will Stanford and Harvard suffer much for a small<br \/>\ndrop?&nbsp; Few people can turn down the lure of a place like Harvard<br \/>\nor Cornell, even for a fast-rising place like Emory.<\/p>\n<p>The article is striking to me in some sense, because I look at the<br \/>\nexperience of my own family.&nbsp; Both of my parents are the only kids<br \/>\nin either of their families to graduate from college (and there are<br \/>\nonly two more if you include spouses of the other four children in<br \/>\ntheir generation), and none of their parents have four-year<br \/>\ndegrees.&nbsp; They had to pay for college, working up through the<br \/>\ncommunity college system, clerking in grocery stores.&nbsp; My brother<br \/>\nand I always assumed (and were expected) that we would go to<br \/>\ncollege.&nbsp; For my cousins, whose parents did not attend college,<br \/>\ngraduating high school was an accomplishment.\n<\/p>\n<p>By and large, my parents&#8217; success was a function of being<br \/>\nCalifornians.&nbsp; California&#8217;s system of higher education, though<br \/>\nstaggering a bit now, was the great educational equalizer of the late<br \/>\ntwentieth century.&nbsp; It set up a system where at least the top<br \/>\nthird of students could go immediately to university and where everyone<br \/>\ncould go eventually.\n<\/p>\n<p>My own class status has risen immensely via my education.&nbsp; I am<br \/>\nin pursuit of a PhD and being a college professor, and even though I<br \/>\nmake much less money than many of my family members or my friends about<br \/>\nmy age, I maintain the same class status as them primarily via the<br \/>\npromise of prestige that the education I have brings.\n<\/p>\n<p>And I wonder what my role in participating in the system of higher<br \/>\neducation should be.&nbsp; On some level, my advisors would say that I<br \/>\nshouldn&#8217;t worry too much&#8211;just finish and find a job.&nbsp; And with a<br \/>\ndegree from Harvard, one aims toward the elite universities, whether<br \/>\npublic or private, not the sort of universities that the individuals<br \/>\nprofiled in the article attend or will attend.&nbsp; But even so, there<br \/>\nare trade-offs: at the public universities, I had more experiences<br \/>\nwhere the students seemed to benefit and appreciate the work I was<br \/>\ntrying to do with them while at Harvard, there are a greater number of<br \/>\nthose really talented students who excite and stimulate one&#8217;s own<br \/>\nresearch and thinking.\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> In the weeks afterward, his daydreaming about college and his<br \/>\nconversations about it with his sister Leanna turned into serious<br \/>\nresearch. He requested his transcripts from Radford and from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vhcc.edu\/\" target=\"new\">Virginia Highlands Community College<\/a><br \/>\nand figured out that he had about a year&#8217;s worth of credits. He also<br \/>\ntalked to Leanna about how he could become an elementary school<br \/>\nteacher. He always felt that he could relate to children, he said. The<br \/>\njob would take up 180 days, not 280. Teachers do not usually get laid<br \/>\noff or lose their pensions or have to take a big pay cut to find new<br \/>\nwork. <\/p>\n<p> So the decision was made. On May 31, Andy Blevins says,<br \/>\nhe will return to Virginia Highlands, taking classes at night; the<br \/>\nGospel Gentlemen are no longer booking performances. After a year, he<br \/>\nplans to take classes by video and on the Web that are offered at the<br \/>\ncommunity college but run by <a href=\"http:\/\/web.odu.edu\/\" target=\"new\">Old Dominion<\/a>, a Norfolk, Va., university  with a big group of working-class students. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t like classes, but I&#8217;ve gotten so motivated to go back to school,&#8221;<br \/>\nMr. Blevins said. &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to, but, then again, I do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He thinks he can get his bachelor&#8217;s degree in three years. If he gets it at all, he will have defied the odds.\n  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I would love to have a motivated student like Andy Blevins.&nbsp; He<br \/>\nand I would drive each other crazy, because I&#8217;d push him as hard as I<br \/>\ncan to do more and better, and he&#8217;d push back, to make me become a<br \/>\nbetter teacher, I think.&nbsp; But in a place with many students like<br \/>\nhim, there&#8217;d be much less opportunity to have colleagues like I am used<br \/>\nto here, and I wonder if the research and writing would atrophy.\n<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s Times article on class in America revolved around unraveling the links between educational attainment and class status in this country.&nbsp; The Times has been running a series on the role of class in American society for the last couple of weeks, and it&#8217;s been generally excellent.&nbsp; It&#8217;s been quite good in dealing with the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":709,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[46],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1190","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politicks"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5G3PH-jc","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1190","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/709"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1190"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1190\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1190"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1190"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1190"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}