{"id":1163,"date":"2005-03-19T10:51:19","date_gmt":"2005-03-19T14:51:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/nateptest\/2005\/03\/19\/roots-of-atheism-in-religion\/"},"modified":"2005-03-19T10:51:19","modified_gmt":"2005-03-19T14:51:19","slug":"roots-of-atheism-in-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/natep\/2005\/03\/19\/roots-of-atheism-in-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"Roots of atheism in &#8220;religion&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a964'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>One of BF&#8217;s advisers, the atheism guy, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalcatholicreporter.org\/word\/word031805.htm%20\">gave a speech in Rome this<br \/>\nweek<\/a>.&nbsp; Father Buckley is fascinating and frightfully intelligent,<br \/>\nand <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0300093845\/qid=1111247158\/sr=2-1\/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1\/102-3288314-9202527\">his<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0300048971\/qid=1111247158\/sr=2-2\/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2\/102-3288314-9202527\">books<\/a> have been about how modern atheism and modern religion have given birth to one another, in a sense.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>In essence, Buckley argued that by the 19th century, &#8220;religion&#8221; had<br \/>\ncome to mean something very different than it did in the medieval<br \/>\nperiod for thinkers such as St. Thomas Aquinas. For Durkheim and Freud,<br \/>\n&#8220;religion&#8221; was a cluster of beliefs, symbols, and rites, essentially a<br \/>\nsubset of the artifacts of human culture. Religion was a genus, of<br \/>\nwhich the various &#8220;religions&#8221; &#8212; Christianity, Hinduism, and so on &#8212;<br \/>\nwere species. <\/p>\n<p>From this point of view, &#8220;religions&#8221; are a little bit like<br \/>\nPepsi and Coke &#8212; specifications of the generic category &#8220;soda.&#8221; (The<br \/>\nanalogy is my own, not Buckley&#8217;s). They become separate and mutually<br \/>\nexclusive &#8220;brand names.&#8221;\n  <\/p>\n<p>For Aquinas, on the other hand, the idea of &#8220;<i>a<\/i> religion&#8221;<br \/>\nwould have made no sense, Buckley said. Aquinas regarded religion not<br \/>\nas a set of beliefs and practices, but as a moral virtue &#8220;by which one<br \/>\ngives God what is due to God, and lives in appropriate relation to<br \/>\nGod.&#8221; Symbols, hymns, rituals and doctrines are not &#8220;religion,&#8221; they<br \/>\nare the acts or objects of religion, with God as its ultimate end. This<br \/>\nvirtue of religion is universal, even if people and cultures have<br \/>\ndifferent ways of cultivating it. <\/p>\n<p>Buckley argued that the scientific study of religion thus<br \/>\nsettled the issue in favor of atheism from its opening move. When one<br \/>\nsees &#8220;religion&#8221; as instructive not about God but about human culture,<br \/>\nhe said, the question of God&#8217;s existence is already asked and answered.\n  <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;God is either incomprehensibly absolute in his being and in<br \/>\nhis goodness and so adored in his self-communication, or God is not at<br \/>\nall,&#8221; Buckley said.\n  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s an interesting alternative viewpoint to the study of religion<br \/>\nconcept.&nbsp; I often explain to people who ask what BF does that<br \/>\nreligious studies approaches religion from outside of any belief<br \/>\nstructure while theology is the study of religion from inside a<br \/>\nparticualr set of beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>But I have often pondered how the atheism of religious studies is<br \/>\nreplicated in other social science disciplines.&nbsp; Do we political<br \/>\nscientists not believe in politics?&nbsp; (I think that this may be<br \/>\noften true.)&nbsp; How does that affect how we study the phenomena?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of BF&#8217;s advisers, the atheism guy, gave a speech in Rome this week.&nbsp; Father Buckley is fascinating and frightfully intelligent, and his books have been about how modern atheism and modern religion have given birth to one another, in a sense. 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