{"id":8,"date":"2005-04-19T11:19:23","date_gmt":"2005-04-19T15:19:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/2005\/04\/19\/china-vs-india-the-view-"},"modified":"2005-04-19T11:19:23","modified_gmt":"2005-04-19T15:19:23","slug":"china-vs-india-the-view-from-the-west-april-19-2005","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/2005\/04\/19\/china-vs-india-the-view-from-the-west-april-19-2005\/","title":{"rendered":"China &#8220;vs&#8221; India: The View From the West (April 19, 2005)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a23'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>You&nbsp;may have seen this morning&#8217;s op-ed&nbsp;rant by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/bios\/bio_melloan.html\">George Melloan<\/a> in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.WSJ.com\">Wall Street Journal<\/a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;am<br \/>\ntalking about&nbsp;his piece on the &#8220;courting&#8221; of &#8220;Mother&nbsp;India&#8221;<br \/>\nby people he&nbsp;does not like.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s&nbsp;a bit churlish&nbsp;even by WSJ standards.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>First,<br \/>\nGeorge is upset at China&#8217;s recent overtures to her western<br \/>\nneighbor.&nbsp;&nbsp; He sniggers at&nbsp;last week&#8217;s visit to&nbsp;New<br \/>\nDelhi by the &#8220;well-tailored, charming and eager&#8221; Premier Wen<br \/>\nJiabao.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;George is much more smitten with Condoleezza<br \/>\nRice&#8217;s.&nbsp;&nbsp; Her recent trip to India, where she presumably<br \/>\nwas&nbsp;no less &#8220;well-tailored, charming and eager&#8221;,&nbsp;was an<br \/>\neffort&nbsp;to&nbsp;waltz the South Asian giant away from Beijing&#8217;s<br \/>\nembrace.<\/p>\n<p>The&nbsp;real&nbsp;focus though, was&nbsp;on Russia.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And, especially <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cid.org.russia\/234-5.cfm\">Vladmir Putin&#8217;s<\/a> attempt to bring China and India closer to&nbsp;Moscow in a sort of &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdi.org\/russia\/275-18.cfm\">triangulating<\/a>&#8221;&nbsp;manoever designed to&nbsp;confound US designs&nbsp;in Greater Asia.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;[The<br \/>\nRussian&#8217;s] are dreaming,&#8221; says George slyly, pretending to contradict<br \/>\nhis reader&#8217;s natural assumptions to the contrary: &#8220;It&#8217;s not<br \/>\nclear&nbsp;that either China or India wants to cast its lot&#8230;with a<br \/>\nRussia that seems to be growing more and more estranged from the<br \/>\nwestern democracies.&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>But to many outside the<br \/>\nState Department and the editorial room of western financial<br \/>\nnewspapers, a&nbsp;China\/India\/Russia reapproachment&nbsp;makes<br \/>\nsense.&nbsp;&nbsp; Beside common borders and a shared history of<br \/>\nsocialist economics, there are the matters of energy, economic<br \/>\ndevelopment, religious fundamentalism, and a general wariness of a<br \/>\nunipolar world&nbsp;dictated to&nbsp;by the US.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>And<br \/>\nIndia, which finally threw off the yoke &#8212;&nbsp;after 100 years<br \/>\n&#8212;&nbsp;of the most pompously hypocritcal examplar of &#8220;western<br \/>\ndemocracies&#8221;(the English),&nbsp;might be loathe to take advice on who<br \/>\nthey should or should not associate with.<\/p>\n<p>That goes double for China.<\/p>\n<p>And,<br \/>\nin a larger sense,&nbsp;India and China are but&nbsp;two stars&nbsp;of<br \/>\nan Asian galaxy&nbsp;that is changing<br \/>\nrapidly.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;National self-determination, the right of<br \/>\neach nation to develop along its own chosen path &#8212; a goal most<br \/>\ndefinitively and eloquently outlined by Lenin more than eighty years<br \/>\nago &#8212; is resurfacing not only in Asia but throughout<br \/>\nthe&nbsp;so-called &#8220;third world&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>This weekend, China will join with other developing nations from Asia and Africa in Indonesia to celebrate the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/international\/story\/0,,1465917,00.html\">50th anniversary of the Bandung Conference<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhich led ultimately to the founding of the&nbsp;Non-Aligned Movement<br \/>\nin 1961.&nbsp;&nbsp; It is a moment of triumph for China&#8217;s leaders.<\/p>\n<p>Trade<br \/>\nwith Asia and Latin America is exploding.&nbsp;&nbsp; China&#8217;s trading<br \/>\nrelationship is now more than $20bn and will surpass that of the US in<br \/>\na few years.&nbsp;&nbsp; Aluminum, bauxite, coal, and, especially, oil<br \/>\nare being snatched up by an energy-hungry Chinese at an unprecedented<br \/>\nrate.<\/p>\n<p>From&nbsp;Rio de Janeiro to Caracas to Johannesburg, <a href=\"http:\/\/yaleglobal.Yale.edu\/display.article?id=5601\">China is clearly the nation to watch<\/a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;She<br \/>\nis making huge inroads&nbsp;everywhere throughout the developing<br \/>\nworld.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Some are now even speaking of a &#8220;Chinese<br \/>\nmodel&#8221; (e.g., a planned economy, one-party state) to replace<br \/>\nthe&nbsp;failing neo-liberal paradigm of &#8220;free markets&#8221; and<br \/>\n&#8220;multi-party democracy&#8221; which is seen in many quarters (especially in<br \/>\nLatin America) as not&nbsp;doing&nbsp;enough to pay the rent,&nbsp;let<br \/>\nalone provide a viable path to national power and prosperity.<\/p>\n<p>And<br \/>\nmany throughout these regions point out that &#8220;multiparty democracy&#8221;<br \/>\noften means little more than different elite groupings of<br \/>\ncompeting&nbsp;entrepreneurs all ultimately beholden to foreign capital<br \/>\nand acting in its interests, to the detriment of that of its national<br \/>\ncitizens.<\/p>\n<p>Too &#8212;&nbsp;and this is&nbsp;what is<br \/>\nreally&nbsp;upsetting to the George Melloans and Condoleezza Rices of<br \/>\nthe planet &#8212;&nbsp;it&nbsp;is now becoming increasingly<br \/>\nclear&nbsp;almost&nbsp;everywhere&nbsp;that&nbsp;America now needs Asia<br \/>\nmuch more <a href=\"http:\/\/yaleglobal.Yale.edu.\/display.article?id=5601\">than the other way around<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>America<br \/>\nneeds raw materials, cheap labor and money.&nbsp;&nbsp; What Asia needs<br \/>\nis increasingly being obtained from centers outside the US.<\/p>\n<p>And<br \/>\nthen there&#8217;s that nagging&nbsp;question of America&#8217;s profligate habits,<br \/>\nits inability to save, and its propensity for&nbsp;ever-increasing<br \/>\ndebt.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>It just so happens that&nbsp;the two largest owners of America&#8217;s debt are in Asia.&nbsp; Japan is one.<\/p>\n<p>China is the other.<\/p>\n<p>But, what of India?&nbsp; And the new relationships being contemplated, especially&nbsp;between New Delhi and Beijing?<\/p>\n<p>China<br \/>\nand India virtually invite comparative study.&nbsp; The modern versions<br \/>\nof these states both&nbsp;started from positions of revolutionary<br \/>\nchange amidst great poverty. In 1950, despite possessing together<br \/>\nnearly 40% of the world&#8217;s population, China and India&#8217;s share of world<br \/>\noutput was 5% and 3%, respectively.&nbsp;&nbsp; Both began the latter<br \/>\npart of the twentieth century with ambitions to replicate<br \/>\nthe&nbsp;policies of <a href=\"http:\/\/housatonic.net\/Documents\/576.htm\">Stalin&#8217;s<\/a><br \/>\nSoviet Union in industrializing its economy and modernizing its<br \/>\nagriculture.&nbsp;&nbsp; And both adopted, more or less, the<br \/>\nfoundations of a Soviet-style planned economy.<\/p>\n<p>Time was to treat these Asian giants quite differently.<\/p>\n<p>China completed its revolution.&nbsp; India did not.&nbsp;&nbsp; China, following the upheavals of the <a href=\"http:\/\/newton.uor.edu\/Departments&amp;Programs\/AsianStudiesDept\/china-c.r.html\">Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution<\/a><br \/>\n&#8212; an experiment in social engineering unprecedented in human history<br \/>\n&#8212; created out of whole cloth a new model of third world development,<br \/>\nuntrammeled by neo-Confucian traditionalism or western capitalism.<\/p>\n<p>India,<br \/>\non the other hand,&nbsp;remained suffocated by an ancient caste system<br \/>\nand the worst features of British imperialism, its population&nbsp;<br \/>\ninfused with the top-down mentalities of an insouciant&nbsp;and<br \/>\nbrowbeaten people.&nbsp;&nbsp; Today, India struggles to achieve the<br \/>\nstatus of economic powerhouse, but history is stacked against it.&nbsp;<br \/>\nAs <a href=\"http:\/\/www.leighbureau.com\/speaker.asp?id=272\">Martin Wolf<\/a><br \/>\nrecently pointed out, &#8220;[China &amp; India] are heirs of great<br \/>\ncivilizations.&nbsp;&nbsp; But China&#8217;s civilization is inseparable from<br \/>\nits state, while India&#8217;s is inseparable from its social structure,<br \/>\nabove all from the role of caste.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>China&#8217;s exponential growth is<br \/>\nbased on high rates of savings (ten times that of India), a heroic<br \/>\ninvestment in infrastructure, universal education, a &#8220;Stalinist&#8221;<br \/>\ncommitment to rapid industrialization, and an economy friendly to<br \/>\nforeign direct investment.&nbsp;&nbsp; India&#8217;s economic growth, on the<br \/>\nother hand, is increasingly service-based and (apparently)<br \/>\njobless.&nbsp;&nbsp; Similarly, as Wolf notes, &#8220;Chinese politics are<br \/>\ndevelopmental, while India&#8217;s remain predominately clientelist.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>People<br \/>\nlike George Melloan are paying increasingly close attention to what is<br \/>\nhappening in Asia.&nbsp; They may not like what they see, but what is<br \/>\nhappening there will &#8212; to a far greater degree than is comfortable for<br \/>\nwestern democracies&nbsp;&#8212; determine what kind of a world emerges in<br \/>\nthe morrow.<\/p>\n<p>Next: Happy Birthday, Lenin!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You&nbsp;may have seen this morning&#8217;s op-ed&nbsp;rant by George Melloan in the Wall Street Journal.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;am talking about&nbsp;his piece on the &#8220;courting&#8221; of &#8220;Mother&nbsp;India&#8221; by people he&nbsp;does not like.&nbsp;&nbsp; It&#8217;s&nbsp;a bit churlish&nbsp;even by WSJ standards.&nbsp;&nbsp; First, George is upset at China&#8217;s recent overtures to her western neighbor.&nbsp;&nbsp; He sniggers at&nbsp;last week&#8217;s visit to&nbsp;New Delhi by the &#8220;well-tailored, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1120,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1428],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-marxisminternationstories"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1120"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/marxisminternational\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}