{"id":33,"date":"2005-02-07T04:24:16","date_gmt":"2005-02-07T08:24:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/longestnow\/wikipedia-the-history-of-a-name\/"},"modified":"2005-02-07T04:24:16","modified_gmt":"2005-02-07T08:24:16","slug":"wikipedia-the-history-of-a-name","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/longestnow\/wikipedia-the-history-of-a-name\/","title":{"rendered":"Wikipedia: the history of a name"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a770'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is a bit from a comment I left on David Weinberger&#8217;s blog the<br \/>\nother day, after I had mentioned that Wikipedia takes no article and <b>JD<br \/>\nLasica<\/b> had commented that, according to the [last item in the<br \/>\nMiscellaneous] <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellaneous_FAQ&amp;oldid=9995175\">FAQ<\/a>, both &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221; and &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221; were acceptable uses.  I realize, on rereading what I wrote, that I nevertheless managed to fit the phrase &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221; a few dozen times into my post.  Except for those special-cases, I never concatenate the two words, honest.<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(204, 204, 255);\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"2\">&#8220;The English Wikipedia&#8221; may be the preferred colloquial usage, and &#8220;<i>the wiki &#8216;pedia<\/i>&#8221;<br \/>\nmay amuse the mind and roll off of the tongue, but &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221; is<br \/>\nrarely correct in any sentence, and never when referring to the<br \/>\nWikipedia project as a whole, with the proper noun as the object of the article.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(204, 204, 255);\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"2\">The FAQ answer you linked to above has hardly been copyedited since the <a href=\"http:\/\/meta.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/WWN_sample\">silver-tongued<\/a> Stephen Gilbert placed it into the Wikipedia <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Overview_FAQ&amp;oldid=327325\">Overview FAQ<\/a><br \/>\nv.1 in 2002, at which time the Wikipedia community had yet to rule out<br \/>\nthe idea of being &#8220;the&#8221; wiki encyclopedia, justifying the name rather<br \/>\nthan claiming it. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(204, 204, 255);\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"2\">The<br \/>\ntruth is, other wiki &#8216;pedias may appear; since the original question<br \/>\nwas posed, the community has reached consensus, in the minds of the<br \/>\nWikipedia phalanges and in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22the+wikipedia%22+site%3Awikipedia.org&amp;btnG=Google+Search\">Wikipedia articles<\/a> you read today, on the article-free name.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(204, 204, 255);\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"2\">The<br \/>\ncircle of articulate digerati who have recently preferred the &#8220;the<br \/>\nWikipedia&#8221; to the &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221; option, however, highlight the urgency of<br \/>\nthe struggle for nomenclatural justice.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(204, 204, 255);\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"2\">I have updated the Wikipedia <a>FAQ<\/a><br \/>\nto clarify and rectify the reality of the matter, and trust that the<br \/>\n&#8220;the&#8221; the Wikipedia-loving fans of the aforementioned circle have grown<br \/>\naccustomed to, will in the near future fade into the recesses of the<br \/>\npast.<\/font><\/p>\n<p>Firstly, if you read closely the answer in the FAQ link above (which is<br \/>\nhow it stood before I updated that answer), it is clear that the<br \/>\nauthors of that answer were a bit confused by how to identify the<br \/>\nobject of a definite article. <\/p>\n<p>Secondly, I&#8217;ve clarified that answer now to reflect current community consensus; at least I can stem confusion from one source. <\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, it is true that there are a dwindling number of Wikipedians who still say &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221;, thinking of it as <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">the <\/span>Wiki<br \/>\nencyclopedia.&nbsp; And this is an interesting etymology.&nbsp; Yet if<br \/>\nWP ever becames one of many such projects, perhaps a neutral wide-net<br \/>\nencyclopedia in a sea of tightly-knit, opinionated community<br \/>\nencyclopedias, it would be silly for it to then change its name. <br \/>\nMoreover, if Wikipedia just means an encyclopedia using a wiki, anyone<br \/>\ncould come along and create &#8220;the Minnesota Militia Wikipedia&#8221;, which<br \/>\nwould irk me, personally.&nbsp; So I have a private vested interest in<br \/>\nnipping that one in the bud.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d be a grammar nazi with <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">your <\/span>organization&#8217;s<br \/>\nname, too&#8230; if your style-convention pages were publicly<br \/>\neditable.&nbsp; Just leave me your docs URL in a comment.&nbsp; ^ ^<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is a bit from a comment I left on David Weinberger&#8217;s blog the other day, after I had mentioned that Wikipedia takes no article and JD Lasica had commented that, according to the [last item in the Miscellaneous] FAQ, both &#8220;Wikipedia&#8221; and &#8220;the Wikipedia&#8221; were acceptable uses. 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