{"id":1944,"date":"2009-10-06T12:18:53","date_gmt":"2009-10-06T10:18:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/germany2\/?p=1944"},"modified":"2009-10-06T12:33:19","modified_gmt":"2009-10-06T10:33:19","slug":"entry-number-01858","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/2009\/10\/06\/entry-number-01858\/","title":{"rendered":"Entry Number 01858"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>6 OCTOBER 2009, TUESDAY, DUSSELDORF, GERMANY<\/p>\n<p>The Technical University of Munich* \u2013 \u201cOld Secret Police Agents Never Die, Sometimes They Just Go into Politics\u201d \u2013 14<\/p>\n<p>(NOTE: This report illustrates just how long and persistent German institutional memory can be, and who can embody it, even in cases where there may not be a direct link with a German university like the Technical University of Munich.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Twenty years later, Heinze appears to regret nothing. \u201c\u201dThere were 18 million of us citizens of East Germany,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd only the smallest possible number were resistance fighters. To put it bluntly, we were managing to get by and to work together with the system.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(To be continued)<\/p>\n<p>Source: Fugmann, Tom, \u201cDer Stasi-Buergermeister,\u201c 3Sat, \u201cKulturzeit\u201c Broadcast of 13 August 2009.<\/p>\n<p>*The Technical University of Munich, officially recognized by the German government as an \u201celite university,\u201d is ranked 67 among the world\u2019s universities. That is, for example, sixteen places below Seoul National University of South Korea. (The Times of London, Higher Education Supplement [THES], World University Rankings, 2007)<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cWhile the traditional study-abroad sites for Americans \u2014 Britain, Italy, Spain and France \u2014 still attract more students from the United States, the report found that China is now the fifth-most-popular destination.\u201d \u2013 The New York Times, 17 November 2008<\/p>\n<p>And what about Germany?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Novel: http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/revision<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014-<\/p>\n<p>6 OKTOBER 2009, DIENSTAG, D\u00dcSSELDORF, DEUTSCHLAND<\/p>\n<p>Die Technische Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen* \u2013 \u201eStasi-Agenten sterben nie, manchmal werden sie Politiker\u201c \u2013 14<\/p>\n<p>(Bemerkung: Dieser Bericht veranschaulicht, wie umfangreich und hartn\u00e4ckig das Langzeitged\u00e4chtnis deutscher Einrichtungen sein kann, und wer es verk\u00f6rpern kann, auch in F\u00e4llen, worin es keine unmittelbare Verbindung mit einer deutschen Universit\u00e4t wie der Technischen Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen geben mag.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reue scheint er auch heute, 20 Jahre sp\u00e4ter, nicht zu empfinden. &#8220;Wir waren 18 Millionen DDR-B\u00fcrger&#8221;, sagt der B\u00fcrgermeister. &#8220;Und nur die Allerwenigsten waren Widerstandsk\u00e4mpfer. Man hat sich, ich sage es so drastisch, eingerichtet und an diesem System mitgearbeitet.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Fortsetzung folgt.)<\/p>\n<p>Quelle: Fugmann, Tom, \u201eDer Stasi-B\u00fcrgermeister,\u201c 3Sat, \u201eKulturzeit\u201c-Sendung vom 13.08.09.<\/p>\n<p>*Die Technische Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen, eine durch die deutsche Regierung anerkannte \u201eElite-Universit\u00e4t\u201c, steht an der 67. Stelle in der Welt; d.h., zum Beispiel, 16 Stellen unter der Seoul National University von S\u00fcdkorea. (The Times of London, Higher Education Supplement [THES], World University Rankings, 2007)<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201eUnter Amerikanern, die im Ausland studieren, sind die beliebtesten L\u00e4nder Gro\u00dfbritannien, Italien, Spanien, Frankreich und China.\u201c \u2013 The New York Times, 17.11.2008.<\/p>\n<p>Und was ist mit Deutschland?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Novel: http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/revision\/<br \/>\n===========================================<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>6 OCTOBER 2009, TUESDAY, DUSSELDORF, GERMANY The Technical University of Munich* \u2013 \u201cOld Secret Police Agents Never Die, Sometimes They Just Go into Politics\u201d \u2013 14 (NOTE: This report illustrates just how long and persistent German institutional memory can be, and who can embody it, even in cases where there may not be a direct [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":165,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[383],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1944","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tu-munich"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1944","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/165"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1944"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1944\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1946,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1944\/revisions\/1946"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1944"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1944"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1944"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}