{"id":1343,"date":"2008-03-13T12:29:21","date_gmt":"2008-03-13T10:29:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/germany2\/2008\/03\/13\/entry-number-01563\/"},"modified":"2008-03-13T12:48:05","modified_gmt":"2008-03-13T10:48:05","slug":"entry-number-01563","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/2008\/03\/13\/entry-number-01563\/","title":{"rendered":"Entry Number 01563"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>13 MARCH 2008, THURSDAY, DUSSELDORF, GERMANY<\/p>\n<p>The Technical University of Munich* \u2013 Any Germans like This? \u2013 17<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cInterviewer: \u2018That means that you had to deal with people you detested as murderers.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBeitz: \u2018Unfortunately, that\u2019s true, but there was no way to avoid that. I had to deal very often with a man named Friedrich Hildebrand. He was deeply involved in what was happening. He\u2019d killed a lot of people and eventually was sentenced to life. In the nineteen-sixties, when he was brought before a court in Bremen, I was a witness at the trial. Many Holocaust survivors were there, and among them was a Jewish woman who\u2019d worked in my office. I remembered how Hildebrand had come to me in Boryslaw and said, \u201cBeitz, you have a pretty secretary; can I meet her?\u201d I told him he should leave her alone; she was a Jew. And then I noticed that she wasn\u2019t wearing an armband, as she was supposed to. He could have had her arrested for that, but he didn\u2019t, and I told that to the court. A lot of people have held that against me, but fairness demanded that things had to be reported just the way they were\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(To be continued)<\/p>\n<p>Source:. Joachem Kaeppner, \u201eInterview mit Berthold Beitz,\u201c Sueddeutsche Zeitung, 2 February 2008.<\/p>\n<p>*The Technical University of Munich, officially recognized by the German government as an \u201celite university,\u201d is ranked 67 among the world\u2019s universities. That is, for example, sixteen places below Seoul National University of South Korea. (The Times of London, Higher Education Supplement [THES], World University Rankings, 2007)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cI feel like someone who has been attacked and injured by a group of thugs. You forgive the thugs, but at the same time you have to warn other people about them.\u201d \u2013 George Sand<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI love (my country) more than any other country in the world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.\u201d &#8211; James Baldwin<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Novel: http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/revision\/<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014-<\/p>\n<p>13 M\u00c4RZ 2008, DONNERSTAG, D\u00dcSSELDORF, DEUTSCHLAND<\/p>\n<p>Die Technische Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen* \u2013 Keine Deutschen wie dieser? \u2013 17<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201eSZ: \u201aDas bedeutet auch, dass Sie mit Leuten umgehen mussten, die Sie als M\u00f6rder verabscheuten.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Beitz: \u201aDas war leider so, anders ging es nicht. Ich hatte viel zu tun mit einem Mann namens Friedrich Hildebrand. Der war einfach gestrickt. Er hat viele Menschen get\u00f6tet und ist dann zu lebenslanger Haft verurteilt worden. In den sechziger Jahren stand er in Bremen wegen seiner Verbrechen vor Gericht. Ich wurde als Zeuge geh\u00f6rt, viele \u00dcberlebende sa\u00dfen da. Darunter war eine fr\u00fchere j\u00fcdische Mitarbeiterin aus meinem B\u00fcro. Und ich erinnerte mich daran, wie dieser Hildebrand in Boryslaw zu mir gekommen war und sagte: Mensch, Beitz, haben Sie aber eine h\u00fcbsche Sekret\u00e4rin, kann man die mal treffen? Und ich sagte, lassen Sie das lieber bleiben, sie ist J\u00fcdin. Und da merkte ich, dass sie keine Armbinde trug, wie es vorgeschrieben war. Er h\u00e4tte sie jetzt mitnehmen k\u00f6nnen, hat es aber nicht getan. Das habe ich vor Gericht gesagt, aber es haben mir viele \u00fcbelgenommen. Aber die Fairness gebot es, die Dinge so zu berichten, wie sie waren\u2019.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(Fortsetzung folgt.)<\/p>\n<p>Quelle: .Joachem K\u00e4ppner, \u201eInterview mit Berthold Beitz,\u201c S\u00fcddeutsche Zeitung, 02.02.2008.<\/p>\n<p>*Die Technische Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen, eine durch die deutsche Regierung anerkannte \u201eElite-Universit\u00e4t\u201c, steht an der 67. Stelle in der Welt; d.h., zum Beispiel, 16 Stellen unter der Seoul National University von S\u00fcdkorea. (The Times of London, Higher Education Supplement [THES], World University Rankings, 2007)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201eIch f\u00fchle mich wie eine Person, die von einer Gruppe Schl\u00e4ger angegriffen und verletzt wird. Man vergibt die Schl\u00e4ger, aber man muss andere Menschen vor ihnen warnen.\u201c \u2013 George Sand<\/p>\n<p>\u201eIch liebe (mein Land) mehr, als alle anderen L\u00e4nder der Welt, und genau aus diesem Grund bestehe ich auf das Recht, es ewig zu kritisieren.\u201c &#8211; James Baldwin<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Novel:http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/revision\/<br \/>\n===========================================<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>13 MARCH 2008, THURSDAY, DUSSELDORF, GERMANY The Technical University of Munich* \u2013 Any Germans like This? \u2013 17 \u201cInterviewer: \u2018That means that you had to deal with people you detested as murderers.\u2019 \u201cBeitz: \u2018Unfortunately, that\u2019s true, but there was no way to avoid that. 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