{"id":1334,"date":"2008-02-27T12:50:48","date_gmt":"2008-02-27T10:50:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/germany2\/2008\/02\/27\/entry-number-01554\/"},"modified":"2008-02-27T12:50:48","modified_gmt":"2008-02-27T10:50:48","slug":"entry-number-01554","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/2008\/02\/27\/entry-number-01554\/","title":{"rendered":"Entry Number 01554"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>27 FEBRUARY 2008, WEDNESDAY, DUSSELDORF, GERMANY<\/p>\n<p>The Technical University of Munich* \u2013 Any Germans like This? \u2013 8<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cInterviewer: \u2018You didn\u2019t come from a particularly anti-fascist family, and you were a German citizen in a country occupied by Germany, just like so many other people.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBeitz: \u2018It was simply the fact of what I was forced to see going on around me. Perhaps it\u2019s not possible for anyone to understand all that today. In November 1942 I was standing at the train station in Boryslaw, and there were these wagons full of people. The windows were covered with wire, and someone called to me. I made them open the wagon, and I saw one of my former employees there, a young Jewish woman from Berlin. At the end of the 1930s she\u2019d been deported to Poland, and now she was sitting on this train. I managed to get her off, and then she said to me, \u201cMy mother is still inside.\u201d I was able to get her mother off the train too, but then an SS official came and said, \u201cWhat are you doing here?\u201d I answered, \u201cI\u2019m taking my people off this train.\u201d In this case though, in the end, there wasn\u2019t anything I could do\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(To be continued)<\/p>\n<p>Source:. Joachem Kaeppner, \u201eInterview mit Berthold Beitz,\u201c Sueddeutsche Zeitung, 2 February 2008.<\/p>\n<p>*The Technical University of Munich, officially recognized by the German government as an \u201celite university,\u201d is ranked 67 among the world\u2019s universities. That is, for example, sixteen places below Seoul National University of South Korea. (The Times of London, Higher Education Supplement [THES], World University Rankings, 2007)<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cI feel like someone who has been attacked and injured by a group of thugs. You forgive the thugs, but at the same time you have to warn other people about them.\u201d \u2013 George Sand<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI love (my country) more than any other country in the world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.\u201d &#8211; James Baldwin<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Novel: http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/revision\/<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014-<\/p>\n<p>27 FEBRUAR 2008, MITTWOCH, D\u00dcSSELDORF, DEUTSCHLAND<\/p>\n<p>Die Technische Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen* \u2013 Keine Deutschen wie dieser? \u2013 8<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201eSZ: \u201aSie kamen nicht aus einem dezidiert antifaschistischen Elternhaus, Sie waren ein Deutscher in einem besetzten Land, so wie viele andere auch.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Beitz: \u201aEs war einfach das, was ich dort sehen musste. Das k\u00f6nnen Sie sich heute gar nicht mehr vorstellen. Ich stand im November 1942 auf dem Bahnhof in Boryslaw, da waren diese Waggons voller Menschen, die Fenster vergittert mit Draht, und es rief jemand immerzu &#8220;Herr Direktor! Herr Direktor!&#8221; Ich bestand darauf, dass der Waggon ge\u00f6ffnet wurde, und sah eine meiner Mitarbeiterinnen vor mir, eine junge J\u00fcdin aus Berlin. Sie war Ende der drei\u00dfiger Jahre nach Polen abgeschoben worden und sa\u00df nun in diesem Transport. Ich hatte sie schon aus dem Zug herausgeholt, da sagte sie zu mir: &#8220;Meine Mutter ist noch da drin.&#8221; Ich habe sie auch geholt, aber da kam ein SS-Mann und sagte: &#8220;Was machen Sie hier?&#8221; Ich habe gesagt: &#8220;Ich hole meine Leute aus dem Zug.&#8221; Aber in diesem Fall konnte ich nichts machen\u2019.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(Fortsetzung folgt.)<\/p>\n<p>Quelle: .Joachem K\u00e4ppner, \u201eInterview mit Berthold Beitz,\u201c S\u00fcddeutsche Zeitung, 02.02.2008.<\/p>\n<p>*Die Technische Universit\u00e4t M\u00fcnchen, eine durch die deutsche Regierung anerkannte \u201eElite-Universit\u00e4t\u201c, steht an der 67. Stelle in der Welt; d.h., zum Beispiel, 16 Stellen unter der Seoul National University von S\u00fcdkorea. (The Times of London, Higher Education Supplement [THES], World University Rankings, 2007)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201eIch f\u00fchle mich wie eine Person, die von einer Gruppe Schl\u00e4ger angegriffen und verletzt wird. Man vergibt die Schl\u00e4ger, aber man muss andere Menschen vor ihnen warnen.\u201c \u2013 George Sand<\/p>\n<p>\u201eIch liebe (mein Land) mehr, als alle anderen L\u00e4nder der Welt, und genau aus diesem Grund bestehe ich auf das Recht, es ewig zu kritisieren.\u201c &#8211; James Baldwin<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Novel:http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/revision\/<\/p>\n<p>===========================================<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>27 FEBRUARY 2008, WEDNESDAY, DUSSELDORF, GERMANY The Technical University of Munich* \u2013 Any Germans like This? \u2013 8 \u201cInterviewer: \u2018You didn\u2019t come from a particularly anti-fascist family, and you were a German citizen in a country occupied by Germany, just like so many other people.\u2019 \u201cBeitz: \u2018It was simply the fact of what I was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":165,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[383],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1334","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tu-munich"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1334","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/165"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1334"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1334\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1334"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1334"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/germany2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1334"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}