{"id":5213,"date":"2004-12-28T13:15:10","date_gmt":"2004-12-28T17:15:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/formerlyknownas\/2004\/12\/28\/why-the-unholy-silence-on-fai"},"modified":"2011-08-05T14:58:06","modified_gmt":"2011-08-05T18:58:06","slug":"why-the-unholy-silence-on-faith-based-law-schools","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/12\/28\/why-the-unholy-silence-on-faith-based-law-schools\/","title":{"rendered":"why the unholy silence on faith-based law schools?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a3008'><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">I&#8217;ve been surprised that so little has been written&nbsp;on faith-b<EM>i<\/EM>ased&nbsp;legal education&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/torah.gif\" alt=\"torah\" \/><\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">by weblawgers who&nbsp;might be&nbsp;apprehensive&nbsp;about the idea.&nbsp; We seem to hear only from <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><A href=\"http:\/\/www.professorbainbridge.com\/2004\/11\/religious_law_s.html\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">fans<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><FONT color=\"black\"> of<\/FONT> the notion.&nbsp; While I am not like <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/cmnewman.blogspot.com\/2004_11_01_cmnewman_archive.html#110125679961121262\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">Chris Newman&#8217;s friend<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">, who would refuse <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">accreditation for such schools, I&#8217;m very&nbsp;wary about claims that religion-focused law<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">schools will produce lawyers who are <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.stthomas.edu\/law\/about\/mengler_article.asp\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">more moral<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"> and ethical, or that proper legal<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">interpretation should look to the Bible first rather than our Constitutions.<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">My misgivings can be found in the earlier <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/11\/24#a2788\"><FONT color=\"black\">post<\/FONT><\/A> &#8220;<\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">religious law schools offer no salvation<\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">,&#8221;<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">which was quoted at length yesterday (Dec. 27, 2004) &#8212; not by a blawger &#8212; but by <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><A href=\"http:\/\/atheism.about.com\/mbiopage.htm\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">Austin Cline<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">, at his <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/atheism.about.com\/b\/a\/134684.htm#more\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Agnosticism\/Atheism Blog<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">. [talk about preaching to the choir]<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Non-lawyer Cline wrote:<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">&#8220;Religion doesn&#8217;t make one more moral, so a religion-based legal education <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">couldn&#8217;t be expected to turn out more moral lawyers. It&#8217;s also doubtful that <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">religious traditions necessarily have a great deal to offer when it comes to <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">a legal education today. In fact, if a religion-based education inspires one <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">to try to apply religious texts to legal cases rather than just the law, it could <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">cause more problems. Aren&#8217;t religious conservatives the ones who complain <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">about judicial activism? &#8220;<\/FONT><\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Cline&nbsp;previously posted&nbsp;<\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/atheism.about.com\/b\/a\/106561.htm\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">Falwell Opening Law School<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;and <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/atheism.about.com\/b\/a\/128624.htm\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">Onward Christian Lawyers<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">at his A\/ABlog.&nbsp; <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Why are weblawggers so shy about this topic?&nbsp; One told me he didn&#8217;t want to take on <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">the religious right in public.&nbsp; I hope others will overcome such fears and openly discuss <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">a topic that may become quite important for the future of our profession and legal system.<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">As usual, thoughtful discussion pro, con or in between would be welcome. (and, as you<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">can see, <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/11\/24#a2789\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">irreverence<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><FONT color=\"black\"> need<\/FONT> not be shunned)<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">night storm&#8211;<BR>I rely on my little<BR>plague god<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Arial\"><BR><FONT size=\"2\"><\/FONT><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">with our gods out of town<BR>they raise a ruckus&#8230;<BR>crows<BR><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\"><BR><FONT size=\"2\"><\/FONT><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\"><FONT size=\"2\">even the outhouse<BR>has a guardian god&#8230;<BR>plum blossoms<\/FONT><\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/commandments.gif\" alt=\"commandments\" \/>&nbsp; <A href=\"http:\/\/webusers.xula.edu\/dlanoue\/issa\/index.html\"><STRONG><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"#ff0000\" size=\"1\"><EM>Kobayashi Issa<\/EM><\/FONT><\/STRONG><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"1\"><\/FONT> <FONT face=\"Arial\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"1\">translated by <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/06\/03#a1610\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\"><STRONG>David G. Lanoue<\/STRONG><\/FONT><\/A><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"1\">&nbsp; <\/FONT><\/FONT><\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been surprised that so little has been written&nbsp;on faith-biased&nbsp;legal education&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; by weblawgers who&nbsp;might be&nbsp;apprehensive&nbsp;about the idea.&nbsp; We seem to hear only from fans of the notion.&nbsp; While I am not like Chris Newman&#8217;s friend, who would refuse accreditation for such schools, I&#8217;m very&nbsp;wary about claims that religion-focused law schools will produce lawyers who [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":94,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[2926],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5213","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pre-06-2006"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6kP1R-1m5","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5213","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/94"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5213"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5213\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13439,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5213\/revisions\/13439"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5213"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5213"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5213"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}