{"id":5033,"date":"2004-09-27T23:42:24","date_gmt":"2004-09-28T03:42:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/formerlyknownas\/2004\/09\/27\/alternative-billing-how-soon-"},"modified":"2011-08-05T14:58:24","modified_gmt":"2011-08-05T18:58:24","slug":"alternative-billing-how-soon-they-forget","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/09\/27\/alternative-billing-how-soon-they-forget\/","title":{"rendered":"alternative billing: how soon they forget"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a2334'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\" align=\"left\"><SPAN><SPAN><FONT><STRONG><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/dontforgettack.gif\" alt=\"don't forget tack\" \/><\/STRONG><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/06\/27#a1700\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\"><EM><STRONG>one-breath&nbsp;pundit<\/STRONG><\/EM><\/FONT><\/A><STRONG>&nbsp; <\/STRONG><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\">[with update]<\/FONT><\/FONT><\/SPAN><\/SPAN><\/P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\" align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT><br \/>\n<UL><br \/>\n<UL><br \/>\n<LI><br \/>\n<DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Yes, like <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/100\/704.7.html\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">Horace<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">,&nbsp;we know that &#8220;Even the worthy Homer sometimes nods.&#8221; (<EM>cf.<\/EM> <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\"><A href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/100\/230.97.html\">A. Pope<\/A><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">)<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">But, <EM>ethicalEsq&nbsp;i<\/EM>s surprised to be forgotten so soon, by <A href=\"http:\/\/www.denniskennedy.com\/archives\/000472.html\"><FONT color=\"black\">D<\/FONT><FONT color=\"black\">ennis<\/FONT><\/A><A href=\"http:\/\/www.denniskennedy.com\/archives\/000472.html\"><FONT color=\"black\">&nbsp;Kennedy<\/FONT><\/A> and <A href=\"http:\/\/www.inter-alia.net\/\"><FONT color=\"black\">Tom Mighell<\/FONT><\/A>, <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">in their <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">list of links to useful <A href=\"http:\/\/www.abanet.org\/lpm\/lpt\/articles\/slc09041.html\">Internet resources on alternative billing<\/A><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">, which appears in the current <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">edition of <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.lawpracticetoday.org\/\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">Law Practice Today<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;(Sept. &#8217;04).<\/FONT><\/DIV><\/DIV><\/DIV><br \/>\n<LI><br \/>\n<DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Along with <EM>LPT<\/EM>, check out our <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">favorite relevant postings, replete with questions, opinions, links:<\/FONT><\/DIV><\/DIV><\/DIV><\/LI><\/UL><\/UL><br \/>\n<P><\/P><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\"><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<UL><br \/>\n<LI><br \/>\n<DIV><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/02\/17#a821\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">Value Billing or Venal Bilking?<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<LI><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\"><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/01\/28#a623\">Value Billing and Lawyer Ethics<\/A><\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<LI><br \/>\n<DIV><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/01\/31#a644\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#42aac8\" size=\"2\">Valuable Debate on the Ethics of Value Billing<\/FONT><\/A><\/DIV><br \/>\n<LI><br \/>\n<DIV><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/02\/12#a770\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">Fees and the Lawyer-Fiduciary<\/FONT><\/A><\/DIV><\/LI><\/UL><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/FONT><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"><FONT color=\"red\"><EM><STRONG>Update<\/STRONG><\/EM><\/FONT> (Sept. 28, 2004):&nbsp; Maybe this forgetfulness <EM>is<\/EM>&nbsp;more <A href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/100\/230.97.html\">Pope<\/A>&nbsp;[ &#8220;Those oft are stratagems which errors seem, Nor is it Homer nods, but we that dream&#8221;] than <A href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/100\/704.7.html\">Horace<\/A>.&nbsp; Dennis Kennedy <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\">isn&#8217;t accepting my trackback pings from this post.&nbsp; Let us (and Dennis) know whether you find our treatment &#8220;useful.&#8221;<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"left\"><SPAN>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT size=\"2\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\"><FONT color=\"red\"><STRONG><EM>Update <\/EM><\/STRONG><FONT color=\"#000000\">(Sept. 30, 2004)<\/FONT><\/FONT>:&nbsp; In response to this post<\/FONT><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">, <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.denniskennedy.com\/archives\/000472.html\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">Dennis Kennedy<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"> was kind enough yesterday to email me a lengthy <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">explanation for the decision not to include any items from <EM><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/stories\/storyReader$34\"><FONT color=\"#000000\">ethicalEsq<\/FONT><\/A><\/EM> in the list compiled for&nbsp;<\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\"> <EM>Law Practice Today.&nbsp; <\/EM><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;I want to clarify that my reason for wanting this weblog to be included on <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">the <EM>LPT <\/EM>link list is the <EM>different perspective<\/EM> it brings to the&nbsp;topic of alternative or value billing, as compared <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">to the cheerleading found in virtually all other materials &#8212; which do not tend to deal with legal <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/01\/28#a623\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"2\">ethics<\/FONT><\/A><FONT size=\"2\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\"> or <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/02\/17#a821\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">reducing <\/FONT><\/A><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/02\/17#a821\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\">legal fees<\/FONT><\/A><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\"><FONT size=\"2\">.&nbsp; Although I did not find Dennis&#8217; explanation to be fully satisfactory, I must <\/FONT><FONT size=\"2\">note that the Trackback problem at Dennis&#8217; site has been (more than) remedied &#8212; thanks, DMK!<\/FONT><\/FONT><\/DIV><\/SPAN><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"right\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">cuckoo<BR>what did you forget?<BR>retracing steps<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"right\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"1\">&nbsp;<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"right\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"1\">&nbsp;<\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/cat.xula.edu\/issa\/searchissa.php?s_string=what+did+you+forget%3F&amp;sorter=date\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#ff0000\" size=\"1\"><STRONG>Issa<\/STRONG><\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" size=\"1\">, translated by <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/06\/03#a1610\"><FONT face=\"Times New Roman,Times,Serif\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\"><STRONG><EM>David G. Lanoue<\/EM><\/STRONG><\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"1\"><EM>&nbsp;<\/EM><\/FONT><\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>one-breath&nbsp;pundit&nbsp; [with update] Yes, like Horace,&nbsp;we know that &#8220;Even the worthy Homer sometimes nods.&#8221; (cf. A. Pope) But, ethicalEsq&nbsp;is surprised to be forgotten so soon, by Dennis&nbsp;Kennedy and Tom Mighell, in their list of links to useful Internet resources on alternative billing, which appears in the current edition of Law Practice Today&nbsp;(Sept. &#8217;04). 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