{"id":4824,"date":"2004-05-10T17:55:25","date_gmt":"2004-05-10T21:55:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/formerlyknownas\/2004\/05\/10\/ambulance-chaser-bill-stalls-"},"modified":"2011-08-05T14:58:47","modified_gmt":"2011-08-05T18:58:47","slug":"ambulance-chaser-bill-stalls-in-tallahassee","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/05\/10\/ambulance-chaser-bill-stalls-in-tallahassee\/","title":{"rendered":"Ambulance-Chaser Bill Stalls in Tallahassee"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a1468'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><br \/>\n<P align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/backonthemarketneg.jpg\" alt=\"back on the market neg\" \/>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/FONT>The bill that would ban all lawyer ads <EM>soliciting<\/EM> litigation &#8220;has apparently stalled in the Florida Legislature after its sponsor told Florida Bar officials he wants time to address concerns before bringing the bill back next year.&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp;Despite major questions about the ban&#8217;s constitutionality, <EM>The Florida <A href=\"http:\/\/www.flabar.org\/DIVCOM\/JN\/JNNews01.nsf\/8c9f13012b96736985256aa900624829\/b5342dad2ea12bd485256e7e00616744?OpenDocument\">Bar News Online <\/A><\/EM><A href=\"http:\/\/www.flabar.org\/DIVCOM\/JN\/JNNews01.nsf\/8c9f13012b96736985256aa900624829\/b5342dad2ea12bd485256e7e00616744?OpenDocument\">reports<\/A> <STRONG>the bill likely would have passed<\/STRONG> in the full Senate.&nbsp; <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">(&#8220;Attorney advertising bill stalls,&#8221; May 1, 2004; and, see <A href=\"http:\/\/www.sunethics.com\/news_item_3.htm\">sunEthics<\/A>)&nbsp; The article notes:<\/FONT><\/P><\/DIV><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">&#8220;Rep. David Simmons, R-Altamonte Springs, said he hopes the Bar and the Florida Supreme Court will address lawyer advertising before the 2005 session, or he expects to reintroduce &#x2014; and pass &#x2014; legislation that <STRONG>prohibits lawyers from running ads soliciting clients to file lawsuits<\/STRONG>.&#8221;<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">. . .&nbsp; &#8220;In response to the bill, the Bar Board of Governors, at its April 2 meeting, approved a legislative position that the Bar would support legislation imposing the strictest legislation of attorney advertising consistent with constitutional limitations.&#8221;<\/FONT><\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><EM>ethicalEsq <\/EM>discussed&nbsp;HB-1357 in a <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/03\/22#a1083\">March 22 posting<\/A>, with links to the <A href=\"http:\/\/www.myfloridahouse.com\/loadDoc.aspx?FileName=_h1357e1.doc&amp;DocumentType=Bill&amp;BillNumber=1357&amp;Session=2004\">text<\/A>, to legislative <A href=\"http:\/\/www.myfloridahouse.com\/loadDoc.aspx?FileName=h1357a.ju.doc&amp;DocumentType=Analysis&amp;BillNumber=1357&amp;Session=2004\">staff analysis<\/A>, and to current advertising <A href=\"http:\/\/www.flabar.org\/tfb\/TFBLawReg.nsf\/E0F40AF2C23904C785256709006A3713\/F0F34CEAE87853CC85256B2F006C8848?OpenDocument\">rules<\/A>, which may&nbsp;already be the most restrictive in the nation.&nbsp; Prof. Yabut thinks lawyer-sponsor Simmons could use some tutoring in constitutional law (and maybe in logic).&nbsp;&nbsp;Simmons told the <EM>Bar News <\/EM>that &#8220;he thinks his bill is constitutional and is necessary to protect the future of the legal profession.&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">Rather than offer commentary, let&#8217;s let Rep. Simmons speak for himself, in quotes and reportage&nbsp;from his interview with the <EM>Bar News <\/EM>(emphases added):<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">He noted that the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld regulations that ban in-person solicitation by attorneys. &#x201C;I don&#x2019;t believe someone should be able to go in the back door and solicit by advertising when they can&#x2019;t go in the front door [with direct solicitation],&#x201D; the representative said. &#x201C;I think it is <STRONG>inaccurate to suggest the strength of television advertising is less than a person appearing personally<\/STRONG>.&#x201D;<\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/FONT><\/DIV><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT><br \/>\n<DIV align=\"left\"><BR><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/wakeupcallsmall.jpg\" alt=\"wake up call small\" \/>&nbsp; &#x201C;In many ways it [his bill] is a shot over the bow, it&#x2019;s a wake-up call to The Florida Bar and the Florida Supreme Court and attorneys,&#x201D; Simmons said.<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<UL><br \/>\n<LI><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">The danger from not regulating ads is the bad advertisements cause the public to mistrust the legal profession. That creates pressure in the legislature for laws that are ultimately damaging to the profession and the legal system, he said. As an example, Simmons noted that last year&#x2019;s workers&#x2019; compensation changes severely limited the role of attorneys in representing injured workers.&nbsp; <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">An expected review of PIP insurance cases in the next year or so could produce the same result, Simmons said, and there are also efforts to reduce the participation of plaintiff attorneys in personal injury cases.<\/FONT><\/LI><\/UL><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">&#x201C;The compelling state interest is we need attorneys involved to represent people who are injured and who have their rights violated, and the way things are headed, there is going to be a <STRONG>significant effort to exclude attorneys from all of these processes<\/STRONG> . . . .&nbsp; <\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">&#x201C;I am watching the burning of Rome, and if the attorneys sit around and fiddle, we&#x2019;re going to see<STRONG> the end of the legal profession the way we know it<\/STRONG>.&#x201D; <\/FONT><\/DIV><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/dogneg.gif\" alt=\"dog neg\" \/>&nbsp; Special thanks to Marc Chandler, of <A href=\"http:\/\/www.papeandchandler.com\/\">Pape &amp; Chandler<\/A>,&nbsp;for the pointer to this <EM>Bar News <\/EM>article.&nbsp; <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">Marc&#8217;s Florida personal injury law firm specializes in <STRONG>motorcyclist injuries<\/STRONG>, and has a distinctive line of <A href=\"http:\/\/www.papeandchandler.com\/merchandise.html\">Pit Bull<\/A> merchandise, to go along with its <STRONG>1-800-PIT BULL<\/STRONG> phone number.&nbsp;&nbsp; We hope Rep. Simmons will let us know what he thinks of P&amp;C&#8217;s marketing efforts. <\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><FONT color=\"red\"><EM><STRONG>Postscript<\/STRONG><\/EM><\/FONT>:&nbsp; <STRONG>Marc Chandler<\/STRONG> emailed his own (quite interesting) reply to our query about Pape &amp; Chandler&nbsp;and Rep. Simmons (emphasis added):<\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/DIV><br \/>\n<DIV dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\">&#8220;Rep. Simmons is familiar with my firm&#x2019;s telephone number as he has been quoted in numerous publications as saying that <STRONG>our phone number led him to propose the subject legislation<\/STRONG>.&nbsp; You might be interested to know that the initial iteration of the legislation proposed by Rep. Simmons had as one of its stated goals a reduction in litigation, but incongruously permitted any citizen who saw an &#x201C;offending&#x201D; commercial to run to a courthouse and file a lawsuit to claim a <STRONG>$1,000.00 penalty.&nbsp; That wouldn&#x2019;t &#x201C;incite litigation&#x201D; would it?<\/STRONG><\/FONT><\/DIV><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><FONT color=\"black\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/phoneold.jpg\" alt=\"phone old\" \/> Our telephone <STRONG>number has been the subject of<\/STRONG> <STRONG>two bar complaints<\/STRONG>. &nbsp;The first bar complaint was filed in 2001 by the then president-elect of the Florida Bar (who happens to be a plaintiff&#x2019;s <FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">attorney) and it was dismissed immediately.&nbsp; The second bar complaint was filed by another plaintiff&#x2019;s attorney who is partners with Willie E. &#x201C;<STRONG>The Giant Killer<\/STRONG>&#x201D; Gary (<\/FONT><\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.williegary.com\/\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"skyblue\">www.williegary.com<\/FONT><\/A><FONT color=\"black\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">) that is currently pending.&nbsp;<FONT color=\"black\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"> <\/SPAN><\/FONT>We are confident that we will prevail, if not at the trial level, certainly at the appellate level. [<EM><STRONG><FONT color=\"red\">update<\/FONT><\/STRONG><\/EM>: wow, were we ever wrong: see, e.g.,<FONT color=\"black\"> <\/FONT><\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2005\/11\/17#a5315\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"black\">fla. high court puts down Pape &amp; Chandler&#8217;s Pit Bull<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"black\">&nbsp;(Nov. 11, 2005);&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2006\/03\/27#a6361\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"black\">U.S.Supreme Court rejects PIT-BULL appeal<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">&nbsp;(March 27, 2006)]<\/FONT><\/FONT><\/SPAN><\/P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" color=\"black\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><FONT color=\"black\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">I am a Bostonian and pride myself on my ethical conduct in the courtroom and towards<\/FONT> my clients.&nbsp; I have to laugh at the misplaced efforts of the Florida Bar that are done to enhance the image of lawyers in Florida.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/FONT><\/SPAN><\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\" align=\"right\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><FONT color=\"black\">s\/ Marc Chandler, Ft. Lauderdale, FL<\/FONT><\/SPAN><\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\" align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><FONT color=\"red\"><STRONG><EM>Note<\/EM><\/STRONG><\/FONT>:&nbsp; <\/SPAN><\/FONT><FONT face=\"Arial\" color=\"black\" size=\"2\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><SPAN style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><EM>As a 3L, Yabut asked his Professional Responsibility professor back in 1975: &#8220;If advertising is so bad, why is General Mills more respected by the public than the Attorney General?&#8221;&nbsp; Result: my worse law school grade.<\/EM><\/SPAN><\/SPAN><\/FONT><\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P align=\"left\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT>&nbsp;<\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;&nbsp; The bill that would ban all lawyer ads soliciting litigation &#8220;has apparently stalled in the Florida Legislature after its sponsor told Florida Bar officials he wants time to address concerns before bringing the bill back next year.&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp;Despite major questions about the ban&#8217;s constitutionality, The Florida Bar News Online reports the bill likely would have [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":94,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[2926],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4824","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pre-06-2006"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6kP1R-1fO","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4824","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/94"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4824"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4824\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13835,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4824\/revisions\/13835"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4824"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4824"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4824"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}