{"id":4765,"date":"2004-03-18T23:27:01","date_gmt":"2004-03-19T03:27:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/formerlyknownas\/2004\/03\/18\/teachinglearning-what-a-lawye"},"modified":"2011-08-05T14:58:56","modified_gmt":"2011-08-05T18:58:56","slug":"teachinglearning-what-a-lawyer-should-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2004\/03\/18\/teachinglearning-what-a-lawyer-should-know\/","title":{"rendered":"Teaching\/Learning What a Lawyer Should Know"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a1060'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">Like Carolyn at <A href=\"http:\/\/myshingle.com\/article.pl?sid=04\/03\/18\/0516238\">MyShingle<\/A> and Nancy in <A href=\"http:\/\/temp.starklawlibrary.org\/blog\/archive\/2004_03.html#001603\">Stark County<\/A>, I think <EM>Unbillable Hours&#8217;<\/EM>&nbsp;<A href=\"http:\/\/unbillablehours.typepad.com\/\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">TPB<\/FONT><\/A><A href=\"http:\/\/unbillablehours.typepad.com\/\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">, Esq<\/FONT><\/A><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;<\/FONT>has a lot of wisdom to offer on what a lawyer needs to know to serve his or her clients well.<\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">In an essay caled on <A href=\"http:\/\/unbillablehours.typepad.com\/unbillablehours\/2004\/03\/on_thinking_lik.html\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">On Thinking Like a Client<\/FONT><\/A>, which originally appeared at <A href=\"http:\/\/www.blogdenovo.org\/\">DeNovo<\/A>, Lawyer B says <\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">&#8220;We need to know <EM>humanity<\/EM>. We need to find a way to bridge the gap between our own experiences and the experiences of others so that we may better serve them.&#8221;<\/FONT><\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">TPB adds:<\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">&nbsp;In order to serve a client well, you need to understand how that client thinks. <STRONG>Law school is not the place to learn that.<\/STRONG> It is there to teach you how the law works and how judges, lawyers, and other decision-makers think.&nbsp; Outside study, whether of psychology, economics, criminal science, sociology, or simply of how drunk bar patrons act, is necessary to understand your clients and to serve their interests zealously.&nbsp; (emphasis added)<\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\" align=\"right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/dinerdude.gif\" alt=\"diner dude\" \/> . . .<\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">Of course, I had to offer two cents of my own on the topic.&nbsp; Since I hadn&#8217;t posted yet today, I have pasted <STRONG>my Comments to TPB<\/STRONG> below, concurring in part and dissenting a little: <\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\"><FONT size=\"2\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">The<\/FONT> attitudes and skills that you&#8217;re discussing are <I>so integral<\/I> to the practice of the legal profession, that helping law students begin to acquire those skills <STRONG>should be <I>at the core<\/I> of the law school curriculum<\/STRONG>. The fact that law school can only begin the process of learning to understand and empathize with our clients (and our colleagues, judges, opponents, etc.) is really no different than with any of the skills that we hope are acquired in law school.<\/FONT><\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/static\/ethicalesq\/PointerDudeneg.jpg\" alt=\"pointer dude neg\" \/>&nbsp; It&#8217;s been 30 years since I started law school, but back then we did not spend one minute learning about how to understand and deal with the fears, anger, needs of human beings that would be our clients (nor even how to conduct any interview). Perhaps the single most important introduction for me to those skills was my first mediation training seminar &#8212; just 40 hours over one weekend, with a multi-disciplinary team of instructors. The <EM>aptitudes and attitudes needed to be a good mediator<\/EM> are the very ones you&#8217;ve pointed to. <\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">I used to say that a divorce mediator could simultaneously commit malpractice in several professions &#8212; law, psychology, accounting and more. But the single most important skill for a good mediator or <I>counselor<\/I> at law is being a good listener. The good listener can understand, and gain trust, and coax out a story, and help reframe and solve problems. <STRONG>The rudiments of listening well can indeed be taught<\/STRONG>. Our colleges aren&#8217;t doing it, so our law schools must. <\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\"><\/FONT><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" size=\"2\">Then, with that degree on the wall, lawyers have to remember that continuing to learn about human beings and being human is an everyday, active, participatory obligation of our &#8220;learned&#8221; profession.<\/FONT> <\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Like Carolyn at MyShingle and Nancy in Stark County, I think Unbillable Hours&#8217;&nbsp;TPB, Esq&nbsp;has a lot of wisdom to offer on what a lawyer needs to know to serve his or her clients well. 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