{"id":4485,"date":"2003-06-17T16:46:25","date_gmt":"2003-06-17T20:46:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/formerlyknownas\/2003\/06\/17\/easier-to-stay-in-than-get-in"},"modified":"2011-08-05T15:00:54","modified_gmt":"2011-08-05T19:00:54","slug":"easier-to-stay-in-than-get-in-the-club","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ethicalesq\/2003\/06\/17\/easier-to-stay-in-than-get-in-the-club\/","title":{"rendered":"Easier to Stay In Than Get In the Club"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a66'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">A visitor asked an intriguing question today &#8212; why are the standards for <EM>staying in<\/EM> so much more lenient than for <EM>getting into <\/EM>the Bar?&nbsp;&nbsp; We would both like &#8220;Suggestions&#8221; on this topic, especially cites to any studies or reform proposals.&nbsp;&nbsp; Here&#8217;s what <STRONG>VirginBound<\/STRONG> had to say:<\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">I am looking for resources\/discussion on the double standard applied to aspiring lawyers versus practicing ones via the &#8220;character and fitness&#8221; evaluation required in all U.S. jurisdictions. A couple of recent cases reversing a character and fitness denial in the jurisdiction where I used to practice (<EM>In re Vanderperren<\/EM>, 661 N.W.2d 27 (Wis. 2003); <EM>In re Rippl<\/EM>, 639 N.W.2d 553 (Wis. 2002)), when contrasted with news reports of attorney ethics violations (both practice-related, e.g., embezzlement of client funds, and non-practice related, e.g., vehicular manslaughter), highlight how anachronistic and untenable this practice has become. <\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">It seems that if an act or behavior pattern is not deemed egregious or relevant enough to warrant disbarrment (e.g., <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.madison.com\/archives\/read.php?ref=tct:2003:03:01:214290:LOCAL\/STATE\"><STRONG><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"#920011\">http:\/\/www.madison.com\/archives\/read.php?ref=tct:2003:03:01:214290:LOCAL\/STATE<\/FONT><\/STRONG><\/A><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">; NB: although this attorney&#8217;s license is suspended, it is for failure to meet state CLE requirements, not the accumulation of five DUIs, see: <\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/www.wisbar.org\/lawyersearch\/resdetails.asp?ID=1000402\"><STRONG><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"#920011\">http:\/\/www.wisbar.org\/lawyersearch\/resdetails.asp?ID=1000402<\/FONT><\/STRONG><\/A><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">), that same act should not be sufficient to warrant licensure denial (e.g., In Vanderperren, the BBE&#8217;s primary concern was the applicant&#8217;s &#8220;history&#8221; of alcohol problems). <\/FONT><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">Can you point me to anything referencing either efforts to reform this practice and bring the two standards into concert or explanations justifing it&#8217;s continued existence? <\/FONT><br \/>\n<P><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">Many thanks, VB <\/FONT><\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">Of course,&nbsp;a similar&nbsp;phenomenom happens at a lot of law schools.&nbsp; Scott Turow&#8217;s Prof. Kingsley in <EM>One L<\/EM> tried to scare his first year law students into believing one in three of them would flunk out of the School.&nbsp; But even a&nbsp;couple of&nbsp;years later, the Harvard Law Class of &#8217;76 was already talking about the &#8220;infallibility of the Admissions Office&#8221; &#8212; if you still had a pulse and would hand in a bluebook for each final exam, you could return, no matter what was in the bluebook.&nbsp; <\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">A skeptic like my sidekick <STRONG>Jack Cliente<\/STRONG> might think that the &#8220;character and fitness&#8221; committees thin out the herd to reduce the competition entering the arena.&nbsp; Once you&#8217;re in the club, however, ranks are closed and self-preservation for each member becomes minimal, non-judgmental self-regulation of all members.&nbsp; <\/FONT><\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">On the onehand, it might&nbsp;be difficult to explain to the public, after clients are severely harmed, why an attorney with a prior substance abuse problem or criminal record&nbsp;was&nbsp;given a license to practice law and &#8220;prey&#8221; on clients.&nbsp;&nbsp; On the other hand, the public might be very surprised to find out that there are any character reviews done before entry to the bar.&nbsp; With my <STRONG>consumer protection hat<\/STRONG> on, relaxing entry requirements makes little sense to me without increasing oversight and levels of discipline.&nbsp; But, the <STRONG>competition advocate<\/STRONG> in me likes entry to be as free as possible (once minimum competency is shown) in order to provide consumers with more options and competitors.<\/FONT><\/P><br \/>\n<P dir=\"ltr\"><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\"><STRONG>Economic or empirical studies<\/STRONG> on the effects of entry barriers to the legal profession might give a clue as to the direction policy should be heading.&nbsp; &nbsp;Click on the <EM>Access &amp; Affordability<\/EM> link in&nbsp;our Navigation&nbsp;menu to find descriptions of two studies that might prove useful:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/FONT><A href=\"http:\/\/encyclo.findlaw.com\/5860book.pdf\"><STRONG><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\" color=\"#924547\">Regulation of the Legal Profession<\/FONT><\/STRONG><\/A><FONT face=\"Geneva,Arial,Sans-Serif\">, by Frank H. 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