{"id":150,"date":"2005-12-02T10:29:02","date_gmt":"2005-12-02T14:29:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/2005\/12\/02\/the-harvard-yale-dance\/"},"modified":"2005-12-02T10:29:02","modified_gmt":"2005-12-02T14:29:02","slug":"the-harvard-yale-dance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/2005\/12\/02\/the-harvard-yale-dance\/","title":{"rendered":"The Harvard-Yale Dance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a1048'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s repeated <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">ad infinitum<\/span> and it goes like this:<\/p>\n<p>HLS alum: Where&#8217;d you go to law school?<br \/>\nYale Law alum: In Connecticut, what about you?<br \/>\nHLS alum: Near Boston.<\/p>\n<p>Five minutes later&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>HLS alum: By Connecticut, do you mean Yale?<br \/>\nYale Law alum: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Five minutes later&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Yale Law alum: Do you know so-and-so from BC?<br \/>\nHLS alum: Naw, I went to Harvard.<\/p>\n<p>Why do we engage is this awkward little dance?<\/p>\n<p>**<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and to you gumshoes out there, one of the Yale Law alums with whom<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve had this conversation is looking through some public documents<br \/>\nthat relate to Alito&#8217;s position on this 1985 case, <a href=\"http:\/\/caselaw.lp.findlaw.com\/scripts\/getcase.pl?court=US&amp;vol=471&amp;invol=1\">Tennessee v. Garner<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhich held that police may not use deadly force in stopping a fleeing<br \/>\nfelon unless there is reason to believe that the individual threatens<br \/>\nthe life of officers and the others.&nbsp; Alito drafted a memo for the<br \/>\nSoliciter General&#8217;s office, urging them to file an amicus brief on<br \/>\nbehalf of Tenneesee, that advocated the use of deadly force even if the<br \/>\nofficer had no reason to believe that the individual posed any danger<br \/>\nto others.&nbsp; The pre-Garner rule was a bit troubling, because<br \/>\nofficers tended to shoot at black and white fleeing suspects at equal<br \/>\npercentages when they had a reasonable belief of danger to their lives<br \/>\nor to the lives of others, but when they had no reason to believe the<br \/>\nfleeing suspect was dangerous, they shot 12 black suspects or every 1<br \/>\nwhite suspect.&nbsp; I haven&#8217;t seen this story in the news yet, and I<br \/>\nthink that Alito&#8217;s memo would make a very good non-Roe story. (I can<br \/>\nhear Reverend Sharpton&#8217;s soundbite now, &#8220;Alito said it&#8217;s okay for the<br \/>\npolice to shoot unarmed Black people.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>Edit: Also, I remember the discussion of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Garner <\/span>in my Crim law class.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.law.harvard.edu\/faculty\/directory\/facdir.php?id=36\">Professor Randall Kennedy<\/a><br \/>\nasked, &#8220;If you&#8217;re a Black man in America, and you haven&#8217;t done anything<br \/>\nwrong, and you see a cop, isn&#8217;t running away a pretty logical response?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an older <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/2005\/10\/31#a1014\">Scalito post<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s repeated ad infinitum and it goes like this: HLS alum: Where&#8217;d you go to law school? Yale Law alum: In Connecticut, what about you? HLS alum: Near Boston. Five minutes later&#8230; HLS alum: By Connecticut, do you mean Yale? Yale Law alum: Yeah. Five minutes later&#8230; Yale Law alum: Do you know so-and-so from [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[186],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-150","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-legalese"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/150","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/121"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=150"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/150\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=150"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=150"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/ecclog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=150"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}