{"id":3628,"date":"2004-11-15T20:37:08","date_gmt":"2004-11-16T00:37:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/2004\/11\/15\/downloading-internet-radio\/"},"modified":"2004-11-15T20:37:08","modified_gmt":"2004-11-16T00:37:08","slug":"downloading-internet-radio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/2004\/11\/15\/downloading-internet-radio\/","title":{"rendered":"Downloading Internet Radio"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a930'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><P>This Hiawatha Bray <A href=\"http:\/\/www.boston.com\/business\/articles\/2004\/11\/15\/music_industry_aims_to_send_in_radio_cops\/\">article<\/A> (via <A href=\"http:\/\/msl1.mit.edu\/furdlog\/index.php?m=20041115#post-2833\">Frank<\/A>) brings up a really important point.&nbsp; At some point soon, it may be necessary to revisit the wall between audio streaming and downloading.&nbsp; People <A href=\"http:\/\/streamripper.sourceforge.net\/\">can record audio streams<\/A> all they want, and, even if it&#8217;s illegal, it may be very difficult to stop.&nbsp;Moreover, given how the sound recording compulsory license for non-interactive steaming services, radio stations can acquire licenses without having to use copy-protection. (Note: I am not sure how the composition&nbsp;ASCAP\/BMI licenses fit into this, but it appears their terms do not require such copy-protection either &#8211; look around, you&#8217;ll find people streaming in MP3 format.)<\/P><br \/>\n<P>17 USC 114 has two interesting clauses in this regard.&nbsp; 114(2)(C)(vi) basically says that streamers can &#8220;take no affirmative steps&#8221; to enable recording and should restrict such activity to the extent is able to do so.&nbsp; <SPAN>114(2)(C)(viii) states that streamers cannot interfere with &#8220;technical measures that are widely used by sound recording copyright owners to identify or protect copyrighted works.&#8221;<\/SPAN><\/P><br \/>\n<P><SPAN>Nothing here seems to requires streamers to use an encrypted format. I&#8217;ve wondered whether these clauses would get dealt with in court, or whether we&#8217;d end up seeing&nbsp;an&nbsp;amendment to mandate DRM use to get the compulsory license.&nbsp; Because, the Internet radio compulsory license couldn&#8217;t get any messier, right?<\/SPAN><\/P><br \/>\n<P><SPAN>As Bray points out, this is another area where social norms and expectations are incredibly out of line with copyright.&nbsp; Most people I&#8217;d bet think recording and permanently keeping copies of TV programs is totally legal.&nbsp; Maybe, but I&#8217;d bet not, in that they&#8217;d be regarded as superseding a purchase.&nbsp; With Internet radio, a copy is ending up on my computer in some form &#8211; whether you call it a stream or a copy, the bits are on my computer. Yet I can only acquire those bits on the condition that I not render them in a permanent state to replay them.&nbsp;<\/SPAN><\/P><br \/>\n<P><SPAN>Can norms reach this level of complexity?&nbsp; Can technology fill the gaps?&nbsp; Open questions I will have to get back to another day&#8230;.<\/SPAN><\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Hiawatha Bray article (via Frank) brings up a really important point.&nbsp; At some point soon, it may be necessary to revisit the wall between audio streaming and downloading.&nbsp; People can record audio streams all they want, and, even if it&#8217;s illegal, it may be very difficult to stop.&nbsp;Moreover, given how the sound recording compulsory [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[84],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3628","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3628","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/72"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3628"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3628\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3628"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3628"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3628"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}