{"id":3396,"date":"2003-11-10T17:14:25","date_gmt":"2003-11-10T21:14:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/2003\/11\/10\/responses-to-thoughts-on-psunapster\/"},"modified":"2003-11-10T17:14:25","modified_gmt":"2003-11-10T21:14:25","slug":"responses-to-thoughts-on-psunapster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/2003\/11\/10\/responses-to-thoughts-on-psunapster\/","title":{"rendered":"Responses to Thoughts on PSU\/Napster"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a486'><\/a><\/p>\n<p><P>1.&nbsp; Do check out the commentary <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/discuss\/msgReader$476?mode=topic&amp;y=2003&amp;m=11&amp;d=10\">here <\/A>and <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/discuss\/msgReader$473?mode=topic&amp;y=2003&amp;m=11&amp;d=10\">here<\/A>&nbsp;regarding <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/2003\/11\/07#a479\">my posts<\/A> on PSU\/Napster.&nbsp; Let me respond to a few piece here.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>First,&nbsp;consider Adam&#8217;s suggestion that PSU\/Napster will lead to more students complying with copyright law.&nbsp; As Adam states, this is hardly an ideal solution.&nbsp; Indeed, PSU\/Napster does nothing to stop people from using P2P.&nbsp; Because of its limited artist selection and computer platforms (Macs and the iPod, in particular), many students will have no use for this system.&nbsp; Sure, it will give some&nbsp;a decent substitute, but many&nbsp;students (and, as a potential contributor,&nbsp;the university) will remain in legal jeapordy.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Next, I concede that my definition of the &#8220;university&#8217;s mission&#8221;, at least in <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/stories\/storyReader$477\">my pho email<\/A>, may be too narrow; however, I think you&#8217;d need to stretch even a sufficiently broad definition to make Napster\/PSU fit.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Taking on the specifically cited counterexamples: first, college radio provides students with a way to learn important skills in a way that serves the student body as a whole.&nbsp; And though I have my gripes about the disproportionate money schools spend on athletics, at least that, too, involves students.&nbsp; PSU\/Napster has no such student involvement.&nbsp; Second, if PSU\/Napster is meant to serve music majors, I think the students have a decent case that their money was poorly spent.&nbsp; PSU&#8217;s <A href=\"http:\/\/www.libraries.psu.edu\/artshumanities\/audio\/digmuslib.html\">Digital Music Library<\/A>&nbsp;seems to be&nbsp;a narrowly targeted service, providing only the songs necessary for various classes.&nbsp; Of course, this difference makes sense, because PSU\/Napster wasn&#8217;t created to serve music majors &#8211; it was meant to try to decrease P2P infringement &#8211; and I doubt Graham Spanier and the RIAA will tell you any different.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Finally, cable TV has some significant differences.&nbsp; No student can receive cable TV without someone laying down the cable lines first, and no one student can make the choice to do this &#8211; only the university can. And, once&nbsp;the university&#8217;s&nbsp;decided to do that, I can imagine that it is advantageous to simply provide one service for everybody, rather than adjust to individual demand.&nbsp; On the contrary, students can get Napster without the university&#8217;s help.&nbsp; Yes, they need the university to get the reduced rate, but that&#8217;s hardly comparable to laying the cable lines.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>I think that points to a more generalizable difference between PSU\/Napster and other college services.&nbsp; In many instances, the college pools money and provides the service&nbsp;when the&nbsp;collective action would be too difficult otherwise.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think PSU\/Napster fits that bill.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>At the same time, even if I concede that&nbsp;other services are superfluous&nbsp;and thus that this is a difference in degree and not of kind, I think there&#8217;s still&nbsp;reason for serious concern.&nbsp; Given that this doesn&#8217;t address the underlying problems; that it won&#8217;t eliminate P2P; that it doesn&#8217;t serve&nbsp;a good size chunk of the&nbsp;student population; and that, even for the population it does serve, it will be of little interest because of song choice and DRM constraints (who wants to &#8220;own&#8221; a tethered download?), I think the disconnect from&nbsp;the university&#8217;s academic mission&nbsp;becomes a greater problem.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Again, this is why I bring up&nbsp;PSU&#8217;s subsidizing Roxio. With other university services, the imperfect fit is overshadowed by other benefits.&nbsp; Here, you&#8217;re locking the students into this one company&#8217;s service (including its restrictive contract), regardless of advancements by rival services, which students are very capable of taking advantage of themselves.&nbsp; If&nbsp;Rhapsody comes out with a far superior service 2 months from now, why should PSU students have to continue to pay Roxio for an inferior product?&nbsp;Why do they need the college to choose Napster for them?&nbsp; Want to bet that part of&nbsp;getting the cheaper subscription fee&nbsp;required signing a long term, exclusive deal?&nbsp;&nbsp;Like I said in my pho letter: &#8220;Certainly, there are advantages to pooling the students&#8217; resources to, presumably, receive a lower subscription fee.&nbsp; At the same time, given how distant this is from the university&#8217;s mission, don&#8217;t these problems seem&nbsp;more severe?&#8221;<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Similarly, that&#8217;s why I&nbsp;dislike the university&#8217;s current rhetoric.&nbsp; I know PSU calls other things &#8220;free&#8221; and supports other for-profits.&nbsp; But I don&#8217;t understand why that means the University has to try to market this to their students.&nbsp; If this were a good fit, I doubt the University would try to hard-sell it this way.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>2.&nbsp; Mary <A href=\"http:\/\/journalism.berkeley.edu\/projects\/biplog\/archive\/001443.html\">notes<\/A> that the negative&nbsp;<A href=\"http:\/\/news.com.com\/2100-1027_3-5103918.html\">reaction<\/A> to PSU\/Napster could be a sign of things to come for CLs. Her recommendation is spot on: &#8220;We need to think carefully about these objections and other aspects of CLs for the full Internet populace.&#8221;<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Without a doubt, CLs have cross-subsidization problems which will inevitably upset some people.&nbsp; But some problems are worse than others, and,&nbsp;in CLs, I think there are likely to be plenty of off-setting benefits.&nbsp; Unlike in PSU\/Napster, all musicians would be included in a CL, there&#8217;d be no DRM (and thus lessened compatibility problems), and (theoretically) anyone on any platform could use the service.&nbsp; <\/P><br \/>\n<P>These differences&nbsp;do not&nbsp;dispose of the issue. However,&nbsp;I think it&#8217;s reasonable to say that the services are different enough that, even though PSU\/Napster isn&#8217;t getting a warm welcome,&nbsp;I doubt it&#8217;s&nbsp;ultimately a good predictor&nbsp;of how CLs will be treated.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>For more on this subject, see Netanel&#8217;s <A href=\"http:\/\/www.utexas.edu\/law\/faculty\/nnetanel\/Levies_chapter.pdf\">paper <\/A>(49-55).<\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1.&nbsp; Do check out the commentary here and here&nbsp;regarding my posts on PSU\/Napster.&nbsp; Let me respond to a few piece here. First,&nbsp;consider Adam&#8217;s suggestion that PSU\/Napster will lead to more students complying with copyright law.&nbsp; As Adam states, this is hardly an ideal solution.&nbsp; Indeed, PSU\/Napster does nothing to stop people from using P2P.&nbsp; Because [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[85],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3396","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-big-ideas"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3396","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/72"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3396"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3396\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3396"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3396"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/cmusings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3396"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}