{"id":259,"date":"2004-09-23T19:57:49","date_gmt":"2004-09-23T23:57:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/bloggroup\/09232004-meeting-notes\/"},"modified":"2004-09-23T19:57:49","modified_gmt":"2004-09-23T23:57:49","slug":"09232004-meeting-notes","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/bloggroup\/09232004-meeting-notes\/","title":{"rendered":"09\/23\/2004 Meeting Notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a178'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>2004\/09\/02 Meeting notes<\/p>\n<p>These notes are a best effort.<\/p>\n<p>Blog your corrections and commentary.<\/p>\n<p>Attendees:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>WK: Wendy Koslow\n<li>j:  j Baumgart\n<li>JD: Jared Dunn\n<li>SR: Shimon Rura\n<li>JA: Josh Ain\n<li>RF: Randy Fenstermacher\n<li>JS: John Sequeira\n<li>RO: Ryan Overbey\n<li>SG: Steve Garfield\n<li>Sun\n<li>PS: Pito Salas\n<li>DW: David Weinberger\n<li>MF: Michael Feldman<br \/>\n<LI>BI: Bill Ives<\/p>\n<li>BM: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.discussit.org\/\">Bruce McHenry<\/a>\n<li>Sooz\n<li>GR: Gregor Rothfuss\n<\/ul>\n<p>JSJ: Scott Johnson<\/p>\n<li>LW: Lisa Williams\n<li>GR: Gregor Rothfuss\n<li>AG: Andrew Grumet<br \/>\n<LI>BI: Bill Ives<\/p>\n<li>DW: David Weinberger, Berkman Fellow\n<li>WA: Warren Agin, a bankruptcy lawyer and new <a href=\"http:\/\/frassle.rura.org\/Directory\/index?feed=475\">Frassler<\/a>\n<li>RM: Rebecca MacKinnon, Berkman Fellow\n<li>NP: Nathan Paxton of <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/natep\/\">Nate Knows Nada<\/a>\n<li>JD2: James Day\n<li>SP: Steve Pomeroy\n<li>RH: Rick Heller\n<li>RM: Rebecca MacKinnon &#8211;&gt;\n<p>There will be no Webcast.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/thursdaymeetings\/2004\/09\/21#a177\">Agenda<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Notes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Blog meetup\n<ul>\n<li>RF: Unstructured socializing\n<li>JD: No wireless\n<\/ul>\n<li>Josh and Shimon talk about <a href=\"http:\/\/frassle.rura.org\/Directory\/item?id=125695\">interpersonal content management<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/frassle.rura.org\/\">Frassle<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/frassle.rura.org\/frassleTalkAt\">more<\/a>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.oscom.org\/midcom-serveattachmentguid-00e809a4876d8c138e26480de31dd197\/oscom-interpersonal-cms-rura-ain.pdf\">slides<\/a>\n<li>SR: intro to Frassle\n<ul>\n<li>people shouldn&#8217;t blog about cats\n<li>They should follow <a href=\"http:\/\/accordionguy.blogware.com\/blog\">Joey<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/red\/\">Wendy<\/a> instead<\/ul>\n<li>JA: We&#8217;re trying to reduce information overload by linking similar blogs together\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;A second-hand opinion is better than no opinion.&#8221;\n<li>JS: Aren&#8217;t you adding to information overload by making better connections?\n<ul>\n<li>JA: Helps people filter what people might want<\/ul>\n<li>JA: talked about his cat Euclid\n<li>SR: generating and republishing content is important\n<li>JA: Frassle publisher\n<li>JA: &#8220;I&#8217;m an amatuer sumo wrestler. If you see me in the loin cloth, you&#8217;ll know it.&#8221;\n<li>JA: categories are important, interrelated categories link people to related feeds, things that might be of interest\n<li>SR: increasing the durability of online reputations<br \/>\n<Li>DW: how do they differentiate comments from other blog posts?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>SR: don&#8217;t really know\n<li>DW: master-servant relationship to comments is important\n<li>SR: threads are important, not sure he should go back to making comments something special\n<li>JA: anytime anyone blogs about something in the blogosphere, it&#8217;s a comment whether it&#8217;s posted on their blog or not\n<li>DW: he sometimes wants to own the comments; he&#8217;s not trying to say &#8220;Put old-style comments back in,&#8221; he wants them to say something else\n<li>SR: watch our demo in a few minutes\n<\/ul>\n<li>JA: demos <a href=\"http:\/\/frassle.rura.org\/\">Frassle<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>JA: categorizing info will save it for later\n<li>MF: it won&#8217;t fall off your aggregator later?\n<li>SR: Yes, eventually\n<li>PS: something about Frassle sucking content in\n<li>JA: Yes, it does\n<\/ul>\n<li>JD: something about pulling the URLs out of posts\n<li>JA: shows threading and all that cool stuff\n<li>LW: sees the value of having related posts within a work group, important to know who else in the group is linking to the same information\n<li>JA: Publisher\n<li>SR: blogging on multiple blogs is clunky, with the Publisher, it&#8217;s easy to blog on one backend and post to multiple blogs on the front end\n<li>MF: can the blog reader reorganize the content on your blog\n<ul>\n<li>SR: not easily. s\/he&#8217;d have to set up a publisher page to do it. We&#8217;re working toward that.<\/ul>\n<li>MF: files? like photos?\n<ul>\n<li>SR: it&#8217;s on the list, but not at the top yet<\/ul>\n<li>SR: not trying to build something like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wikipedia.org\/\">Wikipedia<\/a>, authority through links instead and people can set up their own categorization\/organizational scheme.\n<li>LW: If Google can do something, can&#8217;t Frassle do it better?\n<li>MF: Is Frassle just a giant echo chamber?\n<ul>\n<li>SR: that&#8217;s a concern<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Taiwanese dim sum in Newton on Sunday, 9\/26, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bostonphoenix.com\/listings%5Cfood\/by_restaurant\/CHUNG_SHIN_YUAN.asp\">Chung Shin Yuan<\/a>, 183 California Street? They open at 11:30 am. Meet in the square at 10:45 am-ish or be at the restaurant around 11:20 am.\n<li>j sent the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.news.harvard.edu\/gazette\/calendar.html\">Harvard University Gazette Calendar<\/a> a notice for our meetings for the listings.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2004\/09\/02 Meeting notes These notes are a best effort. Blog your corrections and commentary. 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