{"id":173,"date":"2004-02-05T18:13:51","date_gmt":"2004-02-05T22:13:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/bloggroup\/02052004-meeting-notes\/"},"modified":"2007-08-23T20:04:38","modified_gmt":"2007-08-24T00:04:38","slug":"02052004-meeting-notes","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/bloggroup\/02052004-meeting-notes\/","title":{"rendered":"02\/05\/2004 Meeting Notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name='a36'><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Posted by j, 2\/5\/04 at 6:13:55 PM.<\/p>\n<p><b>Weblog Writer&#39;s Meeting on 2004\/02\/05<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Disclaimer\n<ul>\n<li>These notes are a best effort.<\/li>\n<li>Blog your corrections and commentary or email <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/thursdaymeetings\/profiles\/$2\">j<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Webcast Details\n<ul>\n<li>This was webcast<\/li>\n<li>And recorded for later on <a href=\"http:\/\/cyber.law.harvard.edu\/blogs\/audio\/thursdays\/Berkman20040205.rm\">RealMedia<\/a> (possibly MP3 as well)<\/li>\n<li>Chat back on #bloggercon!!\n<ul>\n<li>RO will be speaking for IRCers<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Attendees\n<ul>\n<li>RO: Ryan Overbey<\/li>\n<li>SN: Sun<\/li>\n<li>DW: Dave Winer<\/li>\n<li>JB: Jessica Baumgart<\/li>\n<li>SR: Shimon Rura<\/li>\n<li>SJ: Scott Johnson<\/li>\n<li>BD: Betsy Devine<\/li>\n<li>BS: Bob Stepno<\/li>\n<li>MF: Michael Feldman<\/li>\n<li>MW: Mike Walsh<\/li>\n<li>RH: Rick Heller<\/li>\n<li>AG: Andrew Grumet<\/li>\n<li>JH: Jack Hodgson<\/li>\n<li>Madhu<\/li>\n<li>GE: Garrett Eastman<\/li>\n<li>JiM: Jim Moore<\/li>\n<li>SG: Sarah Guerrero<\/li>\n<li>Al<\/li>\n<li>First Time\n<ul>\n<li>JC: Joe Costello<\/li>\n<li>Julian: Julian<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Past Attendants\n<ul>\n<li>Single\n<ul>\n<li>S: Stephen<\/li>\n<li>R: Renee<\/li>\n<li>PS: Pito Salas<\/li>\n<li>BA: Bob Atkinson<\/li>\n<li>DO: Dermot O&#39;Rourke, from IAP<\/li>\n<li>FT: Fons Tuinstra\n<ul>\n<li>From Shanghai<\/li>\n<li>CBIZ.CN<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>AS: Aaron Swartz<\/li>\n<li>JA: Josh Ain, a friend of Shimon&#8217;s<\/li>\n<li>S: Sarah<\/li>\n<li>SZ: Sooz<\/li>\n<li>WK: Wendy Koslow<\/li>\n<li>VN: Vernica<\/li>\n<li>MM: Matt May<\/li>\n<li>LW: Lisa Williams<\/li>\n<li>GR: Gregor Rothfuss<\/li>\n<li>CB: Carl Blesius<\/li>\n<li>LM: Larry Mils<\/li>\n<li>JH: Jeffrey Henning<\/li>\n<li>JM: Jay McCarthy<\/li>\n<li>TA: Tracy Adams<\/li>\n<li>SK: Sam Klein<\/li>\n<li>CJ: Critt Jarvis<\/li>\n<li>SP: Steve Pomeroy<\/li>\n<li>MC: Mary Chitty<\/li>\n<li>JH: Jack Hodgson<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/thursdaymeetings\/2004\/02\/04#a34\">Proposed Agenda<\/a>\n<li>Topics\n<ul>\n<li>Introductions\n<li>Rick Heller introduces his novel on a <a href=\"http:\/\/tiki.opensourcenovel.net\/tiki-index.php?page=ChapterOne\">wiki<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>Dave demonstrates how to edit a wiki<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Dave plugged librarians and the <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/jkbaumga\/2004\/02\/05#a763\">New York Times article<\/a><\/li>\n<li>JiM came in, so DW let him talk about the Dean campaign and using the Internet to raise money.\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/dowbrigade\/\">Michael Feldman of Dowbrigade<\/a> may demo his technique.\n<ul>\n<li>Where does he get his content: news &amp; RSS feeds<\/li>\n<li>He uses 3 aggregators\n<ul>\n<li>One is just New York Times content: New York Times aggregator<\/li>\n<li>He uses 3 because he gets so many feeds they roll off the bottom before he reads them<\/li>\n<li>A guy whose name I don&#8217;t know recommends <a href=\"http:\/\/ranchero.com\/netnewswire\/\">NetNewsWire<\/a> as an aggregator<\/li>\n<li>MF talks about the benefits of having a definitive article about all of the aggregators and their features<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>He looks for interesting stories that can be well-illustrated<\/li>\n<li>MF works in Dreamweaver<\/lI>\n<li>MF selects a news item about sharks\n<li>He pastes the text into Dreamweaver, then goes out to look for a photo. <a href=\"http:\/\/images.google.com\/\">Google images<\/a>, searches for shark.<\/li>\n<li>Yes, he worries about copyright issues. His first choice for images is from a server outside of the United States because he thinks it&#8217;s more difficult for a foreigner to sue an American than someone like Time-Warner coming after him.<\/lI>\n<li>MF selects a terrific image of a large shark jumping out of the water at a helicopter (which some people claim is not real) from Germany<\/li>\n<li>Next, he edits the photo in Photoshop and saves the image using the &#8220;save to Web&#8221; feature<\/li>\n<li>In Dreamweaver, he inserts the picture and uses alt text to describe the image for people who don&#8217;t view images<\/li>\n<li>He thinks that 537 pixels is a good screen width<\/li>\n<li>Then he writes something in addition to the text he appropriates\n<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Sharks are one of the wonders of evolution &#8230;&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>He uses the screen view with the HTML code on top and the Web view on the bottom.<\/li>\n<li>He makes sure he credits the source<\/li>\n<li>Now he must upload the image and the text<\/li>\n<li>Back in Safari, he uploads the picture<\/li>\n<li>He then copies the HTML code from Dreamweaver and pastes it into a blog post.<\/li>\n<li>(MF remarks this is the first time he&#8217;s done any wireless Web browsing and he&#8217;s very impressed with being able to move from his chair to the table without moving wires.)<\/li>\n<li>He admits not knowing HTML and uses a list of commands he&#8217;s typed so he can keep copying and pasting them. He knows a few commands he uses regularly.<\/li>\n<li>He reemphasizes the importance of giving credit and points out that a lot of people who hit his blog are doing image searches.\n<ul>\n<li>AG comments that it&#8217;s MF&#8217;s dilligent use of &#8220;alt&#8221; tags<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>The resulting blog post is: <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/dowbrigade\/2004\/02\/05#a2548\">http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/dowbrigade\/2004\/02\/05#a2548<\/a><\/li>\n<li>DW admits that he doesn&#8217;t worry about copyright law.\n<\/ul>\n<li>j asked for input about the <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/thursdaymeetings\/2004\/02\/04#a32\">intermediate weblog classes<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Addendum: Pursuant to a discussion at the meeting, Rick Heller has set up two wikis for the group: <a href=\"http:\/\/tiki.opensourcenovel.net\/tiki-index.php?page=BerkmanThursdays\"><br \/>\none for general group stuff<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/tiki.opensourcenovel.net\/tiki-index.php?page=AggregatorWishList\">the other for the discussion about aggregators<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Posted by j, 2\/5\/04 at 6:13:55 PM. Weblog Writer&#39;s Meeting on 2004\/02\/05 Disclaimer These notes are a best effort. Blog your corrections and commentary or email j Webcast Details This was webcast And recorded for later on RealMedia (possibly MP3 as well) Chat back on #bloggercon!! 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