{"id":96,"date":"2011-12-06T19:21:20","date_gmt":"2011-12-07T00:21:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.law.harvard.edu\/andresmh\/?p=96"},"modified":"2011-12-06T19:21:20","modified_gmt":"2011-12-07T00:21:20","slug":"obscurity-miscellaneous-and-the-internets-testosterone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.blogs.harvard.edu\/andresmh\/2011\/12\/obscurity-miscellaneous-and-the-internets-testosterone\/","title":{"rendered":"Obscurity, Miscellaneous and the Internet&#8217;s Testosterone"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, the influential, yet obscure, <em>bodybuilding.com<\/em>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/BodyBuilding.com_Forums\">forums<\/a> were <a href=\"http:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=3318652\">a bit<\/a> on the spotlight after some of its members discovered a <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052970204083204577082732651078156.html?mod=googlenews_wsj\">security hole in Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Influence through Obscurity.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I find it interesting that, despite their influential role, a number of online communities, such as 4chan and the bodybuilding forums, remain somewhat obscure. I believe 4chan did not gain a lot of mainstream media attention until the whole <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/technology\/2011\/jan\/27\/anonymous-hacking\">Anonymous-Wikileaks<\/a> scandal, and even then, the number of even tech-savvy people who confuse <a href=\"http:\/\/memegenerator.net\/instance\/11289977\">4chan with FORTRAN<\/a> is not negligible. Perhaps, as someone during ROFLCON mentioned, these communities are insular and newbie-adverse on purpose as \u00a0a way to maintain their underground status. \u00a0They rely heavily on in-jokes and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Triforce.svg\">secret handshakes<\/a> that take a lot of lurking to decode.<\/p>\n<p><strong>All \u00a0Forums Tend to Miscellaneous\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The bodybuilding forums, like 4chan and others, grew a large and active sub-community out of their &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/forum.bodybuilding.com\/forumdisplay.php?f=19\">Miscellaneous<\/a>&#8221; section. Even on the Scratch Online Community, a wholesome website primarily for kids to share their own video games and\u00a0animations, the \u00a0&#8220;Miscellaneous&#8221; discussion&#8217;s forum has been the most active and rowdy social space of the website. But has also served as some sort \u00a0of public square for the community that I think is something that most online communities need to maintain authenticity at the expense of rowdiness.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Internet&#8217;s Testosterone<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/AdrianChen\/status\/144115211064971265\">Some<\/a> people have <a href=\"http:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=3319227\">noted<\/a>\u00a0the similarities between 4chan and the bodybuilding forums. In particular, between \/b\/ and the bodybuilding&#8217;s Misc forum. The platforms are significantly different, bodybuilding.com uses pseudonyms and has archives while 4chan \u00a0is completely anonymous and ephemeral. Despite those differences, different <a href=\"http:\/\/gawker.com\/5843355\/how-a-14+year+old-girl-became-an-unwilling-internet-pin+up\">events<\/a>\u00a0have shed light at the possibility that both communities have a \u00a0decent amount of overlap.<\/p>\n<p>I think part of it is the population they attract. The population of a website focused on <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">bodybuilding<\/span> is somewhat easy to stereotype: young males with a lot of testosterone. \/b\/ is a bit harder, but based on the content, it seems like testosterone is a common denominator as well. It is interesting, and perhaps obvious, that when you bring a bunch of young males together, similar kind of content tends to emerge.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Despite the wide adoption of \u00a0the Internet by a large percentage population, it seems like gender-based clustering continues to exist. I wonder then, what would be the opposite of 4chan and the bodybuilding forums? Is Internet culture disproportionately influenced by male-centric online spaces? \u00a0What female online spaces have the most influence? Is the Internet always going to be about Justin Bieber vs &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/knowyourmeme.com\/memes\/cool-story-bro\">bros<\/a>&#8220;?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, the influential, yet obscure, bodybuilding.com&#8216;s forums were a bit on the spotlight after some of its members discovered a security hole in Facebook. Influence through Obscurity. I find it interesting that, despite their influential role, a number of online communities, such as 4chan and the bodybuilding forums, remain somewhat obscure. 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